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It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.

So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.

The main illegality with Elaida's election was that her secret calling of 11 Sitters most likely counts as collusion, which is a major crime.

However, the Rebels cause was never justified as fighting an illegal Amyrlin. They merely claim that Elaida's rise, while technically legal, grossly violated the spirit of the law, and her stilling of Siuan and Leane without trial, and the murder of Alric, were definitely not even remotely legal.

Not to mention hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2541 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 930 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 903 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 541 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 813 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 915 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 973 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 815 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 996 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 847 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 472 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 823 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 817 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 848 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 800 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1327 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1029 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1011 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 920 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 825 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 854 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 937 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 925 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 805 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1025 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 819 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 771 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 873 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 885 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 802 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 877 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 866 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 899 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 992 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 906 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 965 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 827 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 869 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 815 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 811 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 892 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 968 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 794 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 933 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 774 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 831 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 918 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 787 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 741 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 844 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 820 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 914 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 921 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 914 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 759 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 357 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 842 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 989 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 920 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 775 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 919 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 471 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 889 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 953 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 932 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 918 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 893 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 858 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 828 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 870 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 851 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 905 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 776 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 795 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 497 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 860 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 815 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 992 Views

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