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General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM
You assume correctly. I must not have been clear.
I was asking about WoT as a series. I understand your arguments against Egwene and while I don't agree on many points I still understand and respect your position. I don't honestly know why I wonder because it really only affects you, but it sounds like you continue to read a series you have a strong dislike for. I can't imagine that is the case as it would be a colossal waste of your time, so my curiosity has been piqued.
I like everything including Egwene's parts. If you really were familiar with my posts, you would know that I often defend it, to the extent that, on wotmania, Sidious often accused me of being a knee-jerk RJ apologist. I am still bemused here, because it SEEMS like you're saying that disliking a character = disliking the series, which makes no sense. Egwene is not even the protagonist, but I have still read and enjoyed books where I disliked the protagonist(s) and everything they stood for. I have read most of Harry Turtledove's novels, for example, which typically have a cast of dozens of PoV characters, of whom I like maybe one or two per series, while strongly disagreeing with his historical conclusions as well. And in spite of this, I have written favorable reviews of his books for the OFMB on wotmania. It is hard to express this without coming across as condescending or belittling, but I mean no offense or personal judgment of you when I say I find the notion that one must like the character or agree with the theme or concept in order to enjoy a book to be extremely immature.

It's been a while and I had forgotten some of the positive things you have said in the past and they are starting to come back to me now that you said that. I certainly don't think you would have to like Egwene or anyone else to like the series, I just didn't remember you saying what you did like. I was sure there was something because of the passion with which you discuss other areas.
I think I made the original question really too vague because I was making sure it didn't sound rude, it was really more of an "okay, I get what you don't like, I'd love to know what you do".
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2446 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 851 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 806 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 504 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 724 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 836 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 890 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 737 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 903 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 757 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 432 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 731 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 734 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 756 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 720 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1244 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 944 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 925 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 832 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 769 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 765 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 843 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 835 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 756 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 938 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 737 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 685 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 783 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 790 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 710 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 784 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 780 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 802 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 894 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 817 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 874 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 766 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 774 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 738 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 718 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 814 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 880 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 713 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 842 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 690 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 746 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 818 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 704 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 668 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 750 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 735 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 801 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 823 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 827 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 676 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 316 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 743 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 912 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 835 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 688 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 822 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 438 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 807 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 868 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 841 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 833 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 786 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 759 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 739 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 778 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 769 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 813 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 722 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 710 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 449 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 774 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 719 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 905 Views

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