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That is just POV trap redhand Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 04:20:07 PM
I'm talking about the leashing and the control that offers. Not every slight injustice that ever happened to channlers ever.


You see a lot of POV from channelers, but how many POV from regular folks? For the cultures, you see TR, and Aiel, the cultures with the most freedom for the regular folks. How about Tear, WC country, or even Andor? The regular folks are leashed and controlled by swords and whips, not Adam, but it is the same thing.

You think the army seiging Camlyn go there by their choice? They go there because the big Houses commanded them. Those people are just as free as damane.

You have so much conceern for damane because the vocal minority of channelers keep talking, while the silent majority of non-channelers are not heard.
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Is anyone angered by the Seanchan and a'dam? TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 11:14:00 PM 1449 Views
Yes, but not me Deadsy - 30/10/2009 11:32:45 PM 712 Views
Re: Yes, but not me Saruto - 31/10/2009 12:49:42 AM 655 Views
I hated him Deadsy - 31/10/2009 12:57:52 AM 648 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam itsjustme - 30/10/2009 11:39:45 PM 825 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam itsjustme - 30/10/2009 11:45:29 PM 666 Views
Except the Seanchan are not spoiled chidlren who mistake "wishful thinking" for a plan Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:48:45 AM 699 Views
Or he could have used the Choedan Kal TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:21:42 PM 655 Views
What Choedan Kal? *NM* Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:15:24 PM 254 Views
The big shiney ball thing he destroyed at the end of the book TheCrownless - 01/11/2009 07:50:15 PM 604 Views
Destroyed. My point exactly. *NM* Cannoli - 06/11/2009 04:40:16 AM 240 Views
For what? Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 12:03:57 AM 652 Views
if he was it wasn't on purpose. I think he was just actively trying to use his ta'verenness *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 12:15:32 AM 262 Views
I dont think it's compulsion. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:16:00 AM 594 Views
Actually, I think it's the other way around. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM 566 Views
He did the same thing with Cady TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:25:51 AM 580 Views
Personally, I thought he was using the TP to do those things. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 07:37:31 PM 539 Views
It wasn't Compulsion...Sanderson just sort of messed up IMO Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:38:38 PM 483 Views
No Simon - 31/10/2009 12:06:13 AM 607 Views
I don't care for Tuon at all. I'd be okay if her and the Seanchan were obliterated. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/10/2009 12:44:22 AM 258 Views
And how is that any different from me with Egwene (except she & I are the same race)? *NM* Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:51:17 AM 266 Views
Have I ever criticized you for disliking Egwene? TaskmasterJack - 31/10/2009 01:06:39 PM 564 Views
Why not Highlords in Tear? redhand - 31/10/2009 02:10:07 AM 691 Views
You dont really get it. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:23:35 PM 539 Views
That is just POV trap redhand - 31/10/2009 04:20:07 PM 530 Views
Flawed Argument Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 08:54:05 PM 526 Views
Not at all. Their position is perfectly justified by their experiences. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 04:29:25 AM 635 Views
The a'dam and leashing of channelers does not change the fact that the OP can be misued... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 09:17:20 AM 625 Views
Which is why people should NOT be MORE angered toward Seanchan than toward WT. redhand - 31/10/2009 06:22:13 PM 521 Views
That's complete hogwash. fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 10:23:50 PM 572 Views
Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it redhand - 01/11/2009 05:44:16 AM 593 Views
Re: Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:54:52 AM 892 Views
Think it through Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:25:08 PM 655 Views
I have... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 11:05:20 PM 622 Views
Re: I have... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 02:27:20 AM 788 Views
Well that was rather silly. TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 12:27:03 PM 494 Views
And a generation later, the same old problem arises. New channelers, with no one to stop them. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:28:35 PM 525 Views
Several valid points... Legolas - 31/10/2009 05:17:09 PM 584 Views
I wonder what if Egwene happen to be a child kidnapped at Flame and sent to WT redhand - 31/10/2009 06:30:34 PM 579 Views
Your point has some validity for the actual Seanchan damane. Legolas - 31/10/2009 06:43:40 PM 606 Views
The sul'dam should be destroyed Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:14:06 AM 547 Views
The people themselves shouldn't be. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:26:08 AM 526 Views
^ *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:33:04 AM 232 Views
Only the Empress can remove the custom Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:48:09 AM 542 Views
Due to their conditioning. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 06:03:32 AM 556 Views
She will (and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM 254 Views
Random Saragorn - 31/10/2009 10:26:34 AM 534 Views
Agreed Simon - 31/10/2009 02:52:33 PM 525 Views
I think the a'dam is the perfect solution for Blacks and the Shaido 'Wise Ones'. Gher - 01/11/2009 02:51:27 AM 604 Views
Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:15:08 PM 479 Views
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