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actually we know that's when they first come back Jim Send a noteboard - 12/10/2009 02:34:59 AM
Osan'gar and Aran'gar are brought back just before Taim shows up in LoC. Be'lal dies almost a year after they did which makes it unlikely that the DO would bring him back at the same time. If the DO did, why wasn't he in the prologue with them? And if you think that Be'lal replaced Taim sometime during LoC or after that eliminates the evidence from Taimendred theories since it was Taim who shaved and looks different to Bashere and Taim who makes the connection between gateways and Travelling, and maybe even Taim who calls Rand's Aiel renegades.

We don't know when Osan'gar and Aran'gar were reincarnated or back in action, only the first time we see them. Although I think it more likely that he brought them all back at once, and Ishy, too. Unless he had prisoners lying around waiting for possession, he had to go out and find them, and it seems reasonable to me that he'd go out and get whom he needs all at once. And, yes, I do think Be'lal replaced Taim before his meeting with Rand.


Osan'gar's POV makes it pretty clear that they both just woke up from their second shorter sleep. Not to mention Aran'gar's reaction to "her" body, if they had been around for some time "she" would have had time to adjust, instead "she" lashes out at Shadar Haran.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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timing doesn't fit Jim - 08/10/2009 01:03:01 AM 498 Views
Re: timing doesn't fit Joel - 12/10/2009 12:42:24 AM 496 Views
actually we know that's when they first come back Jim - 12/10/2009 02:34:59 AM 591 Views
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