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Re: IMHO dexterity only ever seemed to BE an equalizer power-wise in head to head combat. kHz1000 Send a noteboard - 23/10/2016 05:41:27 PM

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View original postThe men don't really need to be obviously stronger than the women for the story to be told. In fact, aside from a handful of outliers I don't think RJ gave it much thought because he also considered dexterity as an equalizer. Not really a concept that would play all that well in a TV Show IMO. Might be really interesting to see something like that executed well. We'd really ONLY see effective Strength and many people may have a different view of the OP and "strength". Even make us see it in the way the AoL AS saw it.

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View original postAs seemed to be why men were still considered to make better weapons. I mean, it might make the women "better" at some fine weaves, but when the goal is simply to keep throwing out the massive sheets of fire, or to just make gateway after gateway after gateway... What the channeler needs is the raw strength to be able to DO it in the first place.

I don't really see why men and women would need the same amount of Power to reach the same outcome. Maybe it's like carrying water in a bucket: the stronger person carries more but slushes it all over the place, the more dexterous person carries less but ends up with the same amount of water in the end. Maybe a fireball of Saidar needs less OP to make than a fireball of Saidin? And then there were some things that men simply could not do as well, like make a bridge of Air (and presumably something that women cannot do as well).

View original postWell... That and just gateways in and of themselves, and other "must be this strong to even use" weaves as well. Maybe it's just a small sample size, but it always seemed like a hell of a lot more Ashaman then Aes Sedai were powerful enough to Travel(like just ab out every Ashaman we ever saw)... Even outside of combat, Traveling is a pretty big freaking deal.

Don't see why men and women would need the same amount of Power to Travel. Totally different weaves and all.

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If ether of their Traveling weaves needed to use less raw Power, it's the male's. Dunstan - 23/10/2016 06:17:04 PM 729 Views

Part of this is perception not reality darius_sedai - 23/10/2016 06:52:47 PM 776 Views

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<quote id="291317">The men don't really need to be obviously stronger than the women for the story to be told.  In fact, aside from a handful of outliers I don't think RJ gave it much thought because he also considered dexterity as an equalizer.  Not really a concept that would play all that well in a TV Show IMO.  Might be really interesting to see something like that executed well.  We'd really ONLY see effective Strength and many people may have a different view of the OP and "strength".  Even make us see it in the way the AoL AS saw it.  </quote>

<quote id="291317">As seemed to be why men were still considered to make better weapons. I mean, it might make the women "better" at some fine weaves, but when the goal is simply to keep throwing out the massive sheets of fire, or to just make gateway after gateway after gateway... What the channeler needs is the raw strength to be able to DO it in the first place.</quote>
I don't really see why men and women would need the same amount of Power to reach the same outcome. Maybe it's like carrying water in a bucket: the stronger person carries more but slushes it all over the place, the more dexterous person carries less but ends up with the same amount of water in the end. Maybe a fireball of Saidar needs less OP to make than a fireball of Saidin? And then there were some things that men simply could not do as well, like make a bridge of Air (and presumably something that women cannot do as well).

<quote id="291317">Well... That and just gateways in and of themselves, and other "must be this strong to even use" weaves as well. Maybe it's just a small sample size, but it always seemed like a hell of a lot more Ashaman then Aes Sedai were powerful enough to Travel(like just ab out every Ashaman we ever saw)... Even outside of combat, Traveling is a pretty big freaking deal. </quote>
Don't see why men and women would need the same amount of Power to Travel. Totally different weaves and all. 
</quote>

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