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Uhhh... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM

I'm having trouble understanding your interpretation of the "Nynaeve would do better still" argument.

We have two options:

1)Angreal are multipliers: So Elayne's strength gets multiplied by X, and this happens to be twice Nynaeve's strength. For Nynaeve herself, of course, multiplying her strength by X would mean access to even more of the OP.

2) Angreal are additive: there's a lot going for this, especially based on what we know about Seeds now. If so, Elayne's level+X is twice Nynaeve's strength. Obviously, Nynaeve herself would do better if X were added to her greater strength.

In neither scenario do we have to assume that angreal somehow work differently based on your strength. They either add or multiply, and they do so evenly for all channelers.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2888 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1326 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1465 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1171 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1576 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1280 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1321 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1412 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1251 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1186 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1214 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1305 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1064 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1312 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1197 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1285 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1122 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1302 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1475 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1382 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1336 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1315 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1130 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1545 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 696 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1517 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1556 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1310 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1644 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1316 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1630 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1290 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1194 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1512 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1549 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1118 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1167 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1174 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1123 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1244 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1045 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1295 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 687 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 650 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1143 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1198 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1252 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1219 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1178 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1316 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1058 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1092 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 997 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 975 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1145 Views
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