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It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel Send a noteboard - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM

View original postif she touched it ONCE, she would require enough training to control it so or she would have died of OP sickness. Fact is her ability is so small that it takes all of her ability simply to touch the Source.

Hence her description makes clear that "training" was quite perfunctory, like "training" a hampster to NOT go on a shooting spree. Channeling sickness only occurs as a consequence of untrained channeling, something Morgase was unlikely to ever manage again even without training in control, so "training" her to prevent that required little time or effort. Frankly, MORGASE does not make sense as Jordan describes Randland: Rather than the instant-addiction-like attitude of all other channelers, she views all her channeling experiences as arduous rather than ardorous. So although Malden shows she COULD have developed the ability to embrace the Source again, the intervening decades show she WOULD NOT have, trained or not.

Regardless, learning how to NOT load a gun grants absolutely no knowledge or experience in how to fire it accurately.


View original postSorilea has more ability as we've seen her create weaves without actual effort.

Soriliea has far more ABILITY because that is a function of training and experience as well as strength, and Sorilea has almost infinitely more of the first two. That says nothing about their relative STRENGTHS.


View original postWe clearly read these scenes differently

Quite.

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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2032 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 932 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1039 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1021 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1054 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1095 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1100 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1220 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1046 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1114 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1027 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 982 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1034 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 921 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 887 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 971 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1258 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1041 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 977 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 941 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 955 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 889 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1292 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1183 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1054 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 857 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1062 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 940 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 953 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 959 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 936 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1174 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1141 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 940 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 853 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1085 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1013 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1145 Views
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