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Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM

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View original postThe info on this post contradicts what Terez read in the notes. Per those notes, Daigian, the weakest AS, is level 45/33, not level 72/66. I think this entry has a mistake, in that it says the 66 original levels were for Aes Sedai only. I believe it included all channelers, even Morghase and Sorelia.

So would be sorely lacking. Setting aside largely irrelevant types like Morgase/Sorilea who can barely even briefly rarely GRASP the Source, much less DO anything with it, many people too weak to be AS still have sufficient strength to actually USE the One Power. And any One Power strength scale omitting people who demonstrably HAVE such strength is incomplete and thus inadequate.
Well, Sorilea can actually use the Source reliably ... She showed Cadsuane how to create the Traveling weave, even if she wasn't strong enough to use it herself.

Perhaps she can; Traveling requires so much of the Power her inability to do THAT proves nothing either way. That we never see her even GRASP the Source on any other occasion is suggestive though. Aiel are very self-reliant, so she would be unlikely to use it for anything she could do as easily do physically, but other Wise Women channelers frequently used the One Power, while there are no instances where Sorilea was said to use it EVEN IN BATTLE. My guess is she ranks above Morgase (who does NOT?) but only by two or three levels at most.


When Rand is kidnapped she makes a little flame too ... and Cadsuane makes a comment in there somewhere that while she may be weak, she is skilled. I suspect she's the lowest level possible that still has some functioning ability with the Source. She's also got enough strength to be at least 100 years old (she has a great-great-grandson that is old enough to consider marriage

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Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 24/06/2015 09:56:33 PM 2032 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! gban007 - 25/06/2015 08:01:04 AM 932 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:49:52 PM 1041 Views
That still would not make sense Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:48 PM 1022 Views
It would fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:17:09 PM 1054 Views
However many ways they meant "dexterity," ALL are precluded by saying, "pure strength" Joel - 02/07/2015 12:09:11 AM 1096 Views
Re: That still would not make sense Onarishma - 01/10/2015 11:54:06 PM 1100 Views
Re: Strength in the OP: the Encyclopedia chapter is out! darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 05:23:32 PM 1220 Views
I suspect... fionwe1987 - 25/06/2015 05:47:59 PM 1047 Views
Re: I suspect... darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 06:33:10 PM 1114 Views
Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive Joel - 25/06/2015 09:22:36 PM 1028 Views
Re: Yeah, a comprehensive scale restricted to AS would not be comprehensive darius_sedai - 25/06/2015 09:56:22 PM 982 Views
Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it Joel - 27/06/2015 08:19:19 PM 1034 Views
Re: Sorilea can GRASP the Source reliably; there is no indication she can USE it darius_sedai - 29/06/2015 07:58:55 PM 923 Views
Since she looks her age I suspect reaching it is almost entirely due to natural longevity Joel - 29/06/2015 09:16:21 PM 887 Views
Not when you consider Morgase darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:02:35 PM 971 Views
Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:22:47 PM 1258 Views
Re: Morghase did use her ability to effect, when unencumbered by Tower nonsense darius_sedai - 01/07/2015 10:32:13 PM 1041 Views
Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 02/07/2015 12:21:55 AM 977 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase darius_sedai - 08/07/2015 03:26:43 AM 941 Views
Re: Sorilea has been at it far longer than Morgase Joel - 09/07/2015 02:25:58 AM 956 Views
RJ did say... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2015 07:13:01 AM 889 Views
True, but that only makes slowings imprecise nature harder to gauge Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:45 AM 1292 Views
Morgase spent nearly 2 years in the Tower darius_sedai - 09/07/2015 03:22:06 PM 1184 Views
And countless hours of frustrated focus to--fleetingly--grasp the source ONCE (i.e. less than twice) Joel - 10/07/2015 02:51:53 AM 1055 Views
doesn't make sense as you describe it darius_sedai - 10/07/2015 04:42:31 PM 857 Views
It does not make sense as Jordan describes it either Joel - 10/07/2015 09:00:36 PM 1062 Views
I agree with all of this fionwe1987 - 10/07/2015 05:21:40 PM 940 Views
You are wise Joel - 10/07/2015 09:06:16 PM 953 Views
But the scale was only applicable for Aes Sedai; they are the only ones to whom strength matters Cannoli - 25/06/2015 11:10:45 PM 961 Views
It MATTERS to everyone; just because it is irrelevant to a hierarchy does not make it absolutely so Joel - 27/06/2015 08:44:07 PM 936 Views
The problem with that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 07:26:53 PM 1175 Views
66 levels for women + 6 ( ? ) for men Terez - 27/06/2015 10:58:16 AM 1141 Views
theory, lesser strength increases the likely hood of a very specific sometimes untapped talent? Aleksis Michael - 30/06/2015 12:25:45 AM 942 Views
Developed skills are distinct from innate Talents (in Randland, literally) but I would still say no Joel - 30/06/2015 01:21:25 PM 854 Views
This thing is all over the place Shannow - 30/06/2015 02:39:01 PM 1085 Views
Re: This thing is all over the place darius_sedai - 30/06/2015 09:39:43 PM 1014 Views
Some of it is... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2015 08:10:00 PM 1146 Views
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