All three are pretty good military tacticians. And I imagine Tuon wouldn't be too bad either. I would imagine that there are also other female generals amongst the Seanchan, but we haven't seen them. In the westlands soldering is pretty much a male dominated occupation.
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Women still can't fight all that well in an era of muscle-powered weaponry. Few men would follow a commander who had never put her own butt on the line. Gareth Bryne and other generals had to earn their stripes, even if they were born to the nobility. Women like Elayne are the exceptions, because they represent a higher allegiance for their soldiers, but that is why Queens of Andor have both a professional military officer (Captain-General) and a personal champion/deputy (First Prince of the Sword) to handle the military aspects of rulership.
The Seanchan exceptions are due to their having institutionalized women in the military. Egeanin's mother was more or less the equivalent of the Chief of Staff of the Navy or Chief of Naval Operations. Women like Tylee have worked their way up to the top ranks and proven themselves, but there are few to no opportunities for wetlander women to do the same. The Aiel women similarly cannot advance, ironically because of their approach to gender equality. Since they give chiefs and roofmistresses equal but seperate duties, they need a mechanism for unifying that power and have chosen a family relationship as the means. Unless they are willing to let a Maiden marry a woman who can be roofmistress, a Maiden cannot rise to a command position. I would imagine a Maiden who was tactically adept might be given subordinate commands under a chief, but she could never be chief or battle-leader of a sept or hold, because that is tied up in the institution of marriage.
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Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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Are women really bad generals?
01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM
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No.
01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM
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Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals...
01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM
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Lol... too true
01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM
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And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains?
01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM
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I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance".
01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM
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but you are difficult to please
02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM
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But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light
02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM
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You can't have it both ways....
02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM
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Why not?
02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM
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Yeah
01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM
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Re: Yeah
01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM
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I thought the same in the past...
02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM
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Gah! Hate!
02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM
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Ah, come on...
02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM
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No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet.
02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM
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Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals...
01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM
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Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops
01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM
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But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too
02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM
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Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it.
04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM
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nope
01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM
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Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin
01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM
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Birgitte's not a soldier though.
01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM
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She says she's not, but so does Mat.
01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM
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Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general
01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM
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Right.
02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM
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Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician.
02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM
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My opinion
02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM
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That's a poor excuse
02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM
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I disagree
02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM
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Re: I disagree
02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM
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Oh, puh-lease.
02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM
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Re: Oh, puh-lease.
03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM
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Re: Oh, puh-lease.
05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM
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I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way"
06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM
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And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph.
06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM
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Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst
04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM
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Men and football.
05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM
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She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders.
06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM
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