Right, so Rand either serves the Shadow in all worlds or none.
Joel Send a noteboard - 20/08/2013 04:58:51 AM
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it comes down to Verin's Tel'aran'rhiod paradox. The Dark One is free in all worlds, or he is free in none. If the Shadow kills or Turns Rand he cannot choose to give Shai'tan victory. So he'll destroy this world, but in countless other variations, he does not and so he remains imprisoned. The thing with the worlds of if is not that this world is more real than the others, it's that the Dragon never chooses to allow Shai'tan victory. In all those worlds where Ba'alzamon claimed victory, the Shadow destroyed the world or killed Rand or anything, but Rand never gave in. In all those possible worlds Shai'tan created in their final confrontation, Rand refused them all.
it comes down to Verin's Tel'aran'rhiod paradox. The Dark One is free in all worlds, or he is free in none. If the Shadow kills or Turns Rand he cannot choose to give Shai'tan victory. So he'll destroy this world, but in countless other variations, he does not and so he remains imprisoned. The thing with the worlds of if is not that this world is more real than the others, it's that the Dragon never chooses to allow Shai'tan victory. In all those worlds where Ba'alzamon claimed victory, the Shadow destroyed the world or killed Rand or anything, but Rand never gave in. In all those possible worlds Shai'tan created in their final confrontation, Rand refused them all.
Whether being turned or not is irrelevant. Maybe he is turned in one world but submits in others; what is the practical difference? As long as he serves and cooperates with the DO rather than either dying (a forfeit that precludes his role in the DOs release) or resisting and surviving (which also precludes that role,) none.
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Re: At that point the Shadow had PLENTY of resources in Illian though.
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Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.)
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Re: Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.)
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The way I see it,
- 20/08/2013 04:36:30 AM
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Right, so Rand either serves the Shadow in all worlds or none.
- 20/08/2013 04:58:51 AM
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Re: The way I see it,
- 22/08/2013 03:40:52 AM
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That's pretty much what I think, and also why I don't think there's one 'real' world.
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Re: That's pretty much what I think, and also why I don't think there's one 'real' world.
- 22/08/2013 07:54:43 PM
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