Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry.
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM
Whoever it is seems genuinely shocked. And I really don't see Moiraine mixing the Creator and sarcasm. She's fairly... I'd say devout but that makes no sense in WoT. But she certainly believes in the Creator.
For example, one time I told someone at work that I was driving to lunch (he had no car that day and got dropped off). He muttered very softly, "God help us...". Given Mat's scowl, and his comment about Tuon saying the same thing, I can easily see it being a similar situation.
Moiraine breathed a sigh of relief when she saw Mat step through the gateway with the young Asha'man following closely behind him. "Did the meeting go well?" she asked evenly, if a bit loudly. Too much was at stake to waste time. If the Seanchan refused to join the forces of the Light, all would be lost, and all Rand had suffered would be for naught. "Is she willing to negotiate?"
Mat snorted, tipping his wide-brimmed hat back on his head to reveal the leather eye patch he now wore. "It took some doing, but she has agreed to certain...terms." He came to a stop in front of her, then settled onto the ground with his ashandarei slanted across his knees. "Egwene won't like all of it - Tuon didn't either - but that's the best sign that it's a fair deal. So the bloody Amyrlin will just have to give over."
Eying him rather dubiously, Moiraine asked softly, "The a'dam? Did she agree to release the damane?"
"No." Though he did not appear to be any more pleased than Moiraine was with that answer, he shook his head slightly. "You can't expect them to change overnight, not when you Aes Sedai won't change either." There had been a time when Moiraine would have taken offense to such words, but no more. "She agreed not to collar any more channelers, though. For now. Once...this...is done, she will discuss other ways of...limiting...Aes Sedai influence."
Moiraine gave a slight nod. She did not like it, but she understood. Perhaps the Oath Rod would give the woman what she wanted. Now was not the time to worry over it, however. "And the armies?" That had been a point of contention. Egwene was not willing to place Aes Sedai under anyone's authority but her own, but from what Mat had told her of Tuon, Moiraine doubted the woman would agree to working with unfettered Aes Sedai.
"About that..." Taking off his hat, Mat dusted it on his knee. He looked troubled. "She isn't willing to follow Egwene's lead, and she refused to put her men under the authority of any Aes Sedai, but I did convince her that the only way to hold off the Shadow is through a coordinated effort."
Moiraine imagined that had not been easy. The Light knew it had not been easy to convince Egwene that she had to ally with the Seanchan in order to save the world from complete destruction. Rand would do his part, but it was up to the rest of them to make the most of his sacrifice. "Did you propose a solution?" she prompted. "This must be resolved quickly, Matrim. If we--"
"I'm going to do it," he blurted out, cutting her flow of words. For a moment, she stared at him, stunned. "I don't like it either, but she trusts me enough to lead her army. As her husband, it's apparently my bloody duty. And I'm the only one she trusts enough to keep the Aes Sedai from taking over." He sighed. "She made me agree to lead all the armies...the Seanchan, the Aes Sedai...whatever is left of the Asha'man. I coordinate it all...direct the armies, combine the forces into teams. Egwene will just have to agree to it. Like it or not, I'll be leading this war."
Moiraine felt a smile tugging at her lips. He was correct - Egwene would not like this. Not at all. Aes Sedai being forced to obey Matrim Cauthon? It seemed like something out of a dream. Or a sister's nightmare. He looked uncomfortable with the idea as well, though Moiraine knew this was the part he was meant to play in Tarmon Gai'don. In truth, there was nothing amusing about the situation, but she almost felt an urge to laugh. "Creator shelter us," she whispered.
Mat scowled. "You know, that's what Tuon said."
Not exactly sarcastic, but not dire either. Kinda humorous. Which is exactly how I pictured it.
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27/11/2012 10:21:35 PM
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27/11/2012 11:14:00 PM
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27/11/2012 11:39:39 PM
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28/11/2012 01:07:22 AM
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No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM*
28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM
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The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me
28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM
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well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum?
28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM
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Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
28/11/2012 05:18:05 PM
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Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM
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Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM
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I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM
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Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM
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Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
28/11/2012 06:31:56 PM
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Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM
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that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM*
28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM
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Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM*
29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM
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Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna?
29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM
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I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them.
29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM
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Egwene to Alanna, IMO.
29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM
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Highly doubtful...
29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM
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Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages
29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM
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Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM*
29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM
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That masking works both ways... *NM*
29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM
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Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner?
29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM
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Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then
29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM
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You're right, most aren't channelers...
29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM
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That's because you see it as a leash...
03/12/2012 10:45:17 PM
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well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder
03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM
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where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM*
04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM
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Eylas comes to mind
04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM
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Hmmm...
29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM
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I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM*
30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM
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Elayne told Min...
30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM
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You are correct ... Min told Aviendha!
30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM
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Nope..
30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM
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this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha
30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM
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Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM
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Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM
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About Alanna, that isn't right...
01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM
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It most certainly is...
01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM
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LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case.
01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM
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Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios...
02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM
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Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM*
01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM
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And? What does that prove?
01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM
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I think we do know a couple of things
01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM
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Hmmm
01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM
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Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde
01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there
30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM
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Day #5 - What!?!?!?!
30/11/2012 05:46:44 PM
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I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM*
30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM
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This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic...
01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM
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Who whispers sarcastically though?
01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM
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Many people do...
01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM
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Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry.
01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM
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Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees....
01/12/2012 11:13:53 PM
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Day 7 ... "Nobody travels the Ways," Ituralde said, aghast.
02/12/2012 05:39:56 PM
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Not Demandred I think
04/12/2012 07:16:27 AM
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Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself!
04/12/2012 09:04:06 PM
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My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn
05/12/2012 12:11:03 AM
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
05/12/2012 12:14:34 AM
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
05/12/2012 12:14:36 AM
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Well not personally obviously
05/12/2012 08:11:41 AM
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The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling
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