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Re: I don't agree with some of this Shishka Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 07:00:28 PM
Well I can disprove little of what you say, considering we see so few mixed circles. Still, it does go against most of what we do know about the Power.


That's not quite true. We have seen a number of examples where a channeler of lesser strength can create better/more potent weaves than a person of greater strength can, even though she uses less saidar to do so. Channelers with exceptional Talents, like with Shields, for example. Call it a matter of greater Precision, or something else, but whatever it is, it is NOT raw strength. So in a sense, the OP behaves more potently for the channeler, in these particular instances.

Suppose linking into a mixed circle essentially gives the leader greater Precision in ALL weaves (akin to have a Talent) than he/she would have had channeling alone. So now, for example, a male can create a more potent fireball using just saidin than he could without linking.

That's what I'm suggesting, and I don't think that's so farfetched.

This is further substantiated by the fact that balanced circles are more powerful, according to the BWB. A circle of six men and seven women is more powerful than twelve women and a man. This is indirect proof that it is the actual Power that provides the difference - balanced circles contribute equal amounts of saidin and saidar. If the link its self was the defining factor, unbalanced circles would be equally powerful.


My original post explained this, also, using my idea. Using my Precision analogy above, it would mean simply that the degree of Precision benefit depends on the balance of men and women in the circle. The greater the balance, the greater the precision.

Even so, I don't think I'm stretching with Demandred.


I don't think you're stretching, I just think it's not the only possible explanation.

Nothing in the series implies that saidin can be more powerful, or weaker.


But the potency of a weave is not ONLY a function of the raw amount of OP used. That's been shown in the series numerous times, for single channelers, so why no for mixed circles, also?

It is possible that you can't draw only from your own strength when linked with others. Eben says that Daigian is drawing less than a whisper of saidin from him at the Cleansing because she won't touch tainted saidin unless she must. So 'maintenance power' is required, which I imagine will have an effect on anything Daigian weaves.


Why? Just because Daigian is drawing a whisper of saidin doesn't mean she's weaving it into whatever she weaves. She could simply be holding it, to maintain the link, while she weaves saidar only. Most channelers can do more than one thing with the OP simultaneously, so it's quite likely she could weave saidar only while separately grasping a whisper of saidin through Eben without actually using it for anything.

Rise and fall, turn the Wheel,
'cause all life is
is really just a circle.

-BHT&tM
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