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Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM
being able to manhandle any man if they were all that weak. Looking at 130 strength we know that is not strong enough to overcome a Forsaken skill level Channeler. Even in a circle with all that implies they would still struggle to overcome one such as Asmodean or Rand. Much more likely the weaker Sisters are in the 15-20 range which would make a circle of 13 more than 2x any Channeler and then adding the benefits of a circle would make this a complete mismatch.


Thirteen may be a magical number where the precision of the circle is perfect, making the shield like a razor blade. It may have nothing to do with strength, especially because the circle is limited to thirteen in number.

A better quote is that Rand says that no three women can cut him off from the Source unless one is very powerful. A fourth one makes him panic. Its therefore likely that 4x equals 120 or similar.
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How many standard deviations is Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2077 Views
Well... - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1114 Views
Hmm... - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1215 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1067 Views
- 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 961 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 997 Views
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They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1003 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1208 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 953 Views
Hmmm... - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1021 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 978 Views
Nope... - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1028 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 928 Views
Keep believing that... - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1057 Views
*shrugs* - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1006 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 913 Views
No it's the literary device - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1034 Views
This is getting ridiculous... - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 913 Views
You are missing my point completely - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 874 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 977 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1033 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 996 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 656 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 958 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 670 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 972 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 824 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1047 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 949 Views
I don't really agree - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 891 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 964 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 934 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 974 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 992 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 638 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 837 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 961 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 840 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 984 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 932 Views
Are you kidding me? - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1097 Views
Sure you can - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 994 Views
Re: Sure you can - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 944 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 909 Views
Oops, typo! - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 980 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 929 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 874 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 801 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 919 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 947 Views
Forkroot in every case - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 928 Views
No! - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 910 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 928 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 891 Views
Not going to argue this with you. - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 864 Views
Your own example disproved your point... - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 961 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 852 Views
Enough! - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 940 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 626 Views
What a brilliant argument! - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 975 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 888 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 984 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 986 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 927 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 924 Views
Excuse me? - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 979 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 928 Views
??? - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1004 Views
2 middling sisters - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 949 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 861 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 909 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 945 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 862 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 864 Views
Nope... - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 906 Views
wrong - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 839 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 931 Views
gotcha *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 585 Views
Better evidence? LOL! - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 911 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 902 Views
Exactly *NM* - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 875 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 821 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 927 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 834 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 975 Views
Indeed - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1015 Views
Rand is sort of a special case - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 841 Views
Regarding Mesaana... - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 913 Views
You continue to mix two things - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 840 Views
No - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1062 Views
You are mistaken - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 921 Views
Yes she did Darius! - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 858 Views
Yet there is no duel - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 840 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1083 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 865 Views
It's irrelevant - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 936 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 900 Views
Daigian - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 922 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 947 Views
You missed my point - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 879 Views
Re: You missed my point - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 952 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 890 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 868 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 738 Views
Re: Sure you can - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1010 Views
Care to explain this... - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 851 Views
Indeed - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1073 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 889 Views
Well duh. - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 996 Views
Incorrect. - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 981 Views
No - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 957 Views
Re: No - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 952 Views
That depends... - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 822 Views
Re: That depends... - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1249 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 932 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 963 Views
It matters. - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 929 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 775 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 966 Views
You must tell me of this special math... - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 862 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 898 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 965 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1151 Views
Why? - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 943 Views
Re: Why? - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1120 Views
Well... - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 998 Views
Re: Well... - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 978 Views
Wow. - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1024 Views
Re: Wow. - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1032 Views
Some points - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1035 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 874 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 776 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 969 Views
Agreed - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 999 Views
probably - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 881 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 911 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 916 Views
Indeed... - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 892 Views
I agree - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1141 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 921 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 982 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1275 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1074 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1205 Views
Disregard this post *NM* - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 840 Views

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