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I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM
Demandred with the SF has several weaknesses.

1. They aren't a relevant military force
2. They have been split up since KoD to delivery supplies where Demandred seems to be in the middle of a consolidation
3. They are not strategically well placed at the moment
4. They are a Naval force with no one to fight

Even if Demandred isn't Roedran, I have a hard time seeing him being among the Sea Folk. I think what you have put forward is for the most part well reasoned and solid, but RJ always had a purpose for where he placed characters and Demandred among the Sea Folk seems to lack that ... Nearly all of the Forsaken (Semirhage, Mesaana, Rahvin, Be'lal, Sammael, Graendal, Aran'gar, Osan'gar) were attached to major Political/Ruling bodies, those that were not (Moghedien, Asmodean, Lanfear, Ishamael)directly involved themselves with Rand and company (or in the case of Moghedien Nynaeve).

Demandred is clearly not working an angle with any of the main cast of characters or he would have been spotted by now (either by the readers or Graendal who keeps tabs on the TR group). That leaves us with limited options to pin him down.

1. Roedran
2. Borderlanders
3. Seanchan
4. Sea Folk
5. Aiel

There don't seem to be any good candidates among the Aiel, Borderlanders or the Seanchan since RJ and BSand ruled out anyone who has appeared "on camera" prior to AMoL ... which IMO also rules out Amel who, did have a cameo, even if a brief one.

Roedran is well placed strategically and with a consolidated Murrandy has a significant power base to open hostilities ... Andor is in a weakened state thanks to the Trolloc's invasion, which Demandred can make worse by provoking a conflict with the Seanchan. Even if you throw out a human army, He is in a prime location as Roedran to direct armies of Trollocs coming out of the Ways all throughout the continent.

Personally I think Demandred having an alter-ego is kind of lame, he doesn't need it at this stage in the books and it would be much more interesting to me if he simply appeared with dozens of Trolloc Hoards coming from various Waygates to smash the southlands.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 2738 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1296 Views
Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1141 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 998 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1187 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1189 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1094 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1351 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 969 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1228 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 914 Views
LIKE! *NM* - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1032 Views
Whoops *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 554 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 608 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 567 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 575 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 567 Views
You've tried too hard... - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 2805 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1139 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 893 Views
I don't know - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 898 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 999 Views
I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 960 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 900 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 899 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1021 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1124 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 943 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 897 Views
Statistics refute some of that... - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 906 Views
We're not talking about the same things... - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 892 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1087 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1004 Views
You seriously believe that? - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 933 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1055 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 820 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 967 Views
That's essentially what I was saying - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1087 Views
hmmm - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1222 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1050 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 879 Views
Exactly... - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1046 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1093 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1059 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1029 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1078 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 950 Views
Exactly! - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1500 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 921 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 909 Views
Not likely he has that many... - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 844 Views
May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 846 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 983 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 914 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 921 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 513 Views
Well you asked for an explanation - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 834 Views
fair enough *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 485 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 961 Views
Exactly! - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 963 Views
Good practical questions... - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 957 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 733 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 794 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 911 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 886 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2421 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 947 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 963 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 995 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1083 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1114 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 913 Views
Not to belabor the point - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 861 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 823 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 790 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 909 Views
no reason to *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 503 Views
I don't see the problem... - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1638 Views
This is preposterous - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1337 Views
Who? - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 863 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1286 Views

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