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My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM
he'll certainly beat him in battle, thats been on the cards since he went through the arches. The killing blow will no doubt be Rand's (or Taim's if there is a twist), the Demandred v LTT thing has been built up far too long for it to be left to Mat.


RJ loved to punish his bad guys by depriving them of their hearts desire. Demandred dying before having his shot at LTT/ Rand has that sort of RJ sense of justice. Not to mention Super Rand is so far out of any Forsaken's league now it would be a very boring OP duel. All the skill of LTT and what appears to be limitless OP strength, and a Buddha like mentality ... I doubt Rand will do the dead himself. But who knows ... I prepare to yawn through it if he does!


Demandred and Rand's confrontation will take place. Too much build up has gone into it.

At the climax of the conventional battle, Rand has defeated Moridin, and is standing over his injured body. In desperation, Moridin reaches out through the link and swaps bodies with Rand just as Demandred arrives on the scene.

Demandred takes his chance and kills "Rand" (who is now Moridin in truth). Rand - in Moridin's body - then kills Demandred, who thinks he has finally achieved his dream, but has in truth fallen short by a hair yet again.
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 2735 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1293 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1138 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 995 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1184 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1186 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1091 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1347 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 965 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1224 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 910 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1030 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 553 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 607 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 566 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 572 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 566 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 2803 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1134 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 889 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 897 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 996 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 957 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 894 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 895 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1018 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1119 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 940 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 892 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 903 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 888 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 932 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1083 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1001 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 929 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1052 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 817 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 964 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1083 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1219 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1046 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 876 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1043 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1088 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1055 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1026 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1075 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 946 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1496 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 917 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 904 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 840 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 842 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 976 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 911 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 916 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 512 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 830 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 484 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 959 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 959 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 952 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 727 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 789 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 908 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 882 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2420 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 944 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 956 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 993 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1077 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1108 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 909 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 858 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 820 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 786 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 905 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 501 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1632 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1332 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 861 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1284 Views
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