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Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM

And Tarna and Theodrin were both Wilders (meaning they had the Spark) and neither of them are in the very top tiers of AS strength, which shows the Spark is not linked to strength. In fact there are many AS who had the Spark and are weak, we just don't see a ton of them onscreen. But they must exist since there is a special classification for them within AS hierarchy and we hear from Verin how many women come to the Tower with "tricks".


I'm sorry but that's a leap too far for me. A few outliers are not sufficient to make that kind of claim, especially when Theodrin nor Tarna are 'weak' and virtually all of the channellers stronger than Nicola (on the female side) are born with the spark.

I assume most things RJ implemented are literary devices, which is probably why we get grey areas like this.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1494 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 892 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1461 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 897 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 743 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 742 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 829 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 730 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 806 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1027 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 808 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 756 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 771 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 769 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 786 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 817 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 717 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 694 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 720 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 874 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 734 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 671 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 675 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 778 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 675 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 767 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 688 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 703 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 703 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 698 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1368 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 953 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 726 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 656 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1395 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 917 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 733 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 709 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 642 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 728 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 816 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 377 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 742 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 701 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 708 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 773 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 780 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 804 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 845 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 803 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 828 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 409 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 749 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 688 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 811 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 641 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1292 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 741 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 745 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 685 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 887 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 810 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 812 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 717 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1012 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 822 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 709 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 838 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 788 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 614 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 884 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 816 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 786 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 799 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 775 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 796 Views
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