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Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM
1000 women of a potential field of perhaps millions is a tiny sample, especially when regionally skewed. All that added to the facts the author laid out make it obvious to me that these Novices are non-representative. Personally I think most of the purpose they served was to show that there are a huge number of potential Channelers in the world and that women like Sharina could be hidden almost anywhere


1000 is not a tiny sample, whether there were a million or a billon channeling women. That's just a fact.

However, it is certainly possible that Norther Alataran women are generally weak in the power. Personally, though, I believe Jordan just came up with some percentages to sound scientific, and didn't take the concequences of that in his writing. It's a shame we can't ask him what his thinking was.

Also, why do you bother discussing the bell curve if you feel it is perfectly reasonable for the author to disregard it if he wants to make the already obvious point that strong channelers could crop up anywhere?
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1490 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 885 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1452 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 893 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 738 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 737 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 823 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 726 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 802 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1023 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 801 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 752 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 765 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 764 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 782 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 811 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 713 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 691 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 717 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 867 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 729 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 667 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 671 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 770 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 668 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 762 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 682 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 698 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 698 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 692 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1364 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 948 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 723 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 653 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1392 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 912 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 727 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 701 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 638 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 725 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 811 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 375 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 738 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 698 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 701 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 769 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 776 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 796 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 840 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 799 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 823 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 407 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 746 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 681 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 804 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 635 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1287 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 735 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 739 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 682 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 883 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 806 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 806 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 712 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1002 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 818 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 702 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 827 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 784 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 606 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 878 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 813 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 782 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 795 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 770 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 792 Views
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