Yeah... only the making... which is exactly what we are discussing. The 'dream of a dream' is a reference to skimming, thus the quote is in reference to strength being irrelevant to make a skimming platform.

Convenient that the world's strongest man has the largest gateways, and that men who are slightly weaker have smaller gateways i.e. Logain, Sammael, Osan'gar.



That is true. Rand can make several gateways of the same size with his strength.


There is no such thing as a weave failing to form. Anyone can form any weave. Its effectiveness is proportional to your strength and your Talent. Its funny how you two claim that low strength merely inhibits these people's Talent whereas we've seen weak women Heal without issue, and yet when someone can't Travel you claim that its because the Talent is there but they don't have the strength.


Androl has a huge Talent for gateways, that's not in dispute.


Didn't you just claim that the amount of saidin had little to do with gateway size?


We don't know that his gateways are smaller than they should be. Flinn makes the biggest gateways compared to many of his peers. The fact that he struggles is a pointer to his lack of Talent. He can still function though, much like someone weak in Earth weaving Earth. Verin is weak in Earth but she still struggles. There is no evidence that her effect is smaller.


Yes well read my posts and we can talk again. I've said about fifty times that I fully support the fact that Talent plays an important role in Travelling. I think the Talent makes the person's strength unpredictable if looking at gateway size. The difference is that I think that 9 out of 10 channelers have average Talent and that strength determines the gateway size. 1 out of 10 have high Talent or low Talent and that alters the gateway dimension.