Be'laim FTW, but technically half the Andoran nobility is Rands blood.
Joel Send a noteboard - 22/06/2012 11:15:12 PM
Not that access SG via T'A'R or some such isn't important, but two things jumped out at me immediately upon reading this.
1) "His blood on the rocks of SG"
Well, we've all assumed that would happen AT SG, but now, it may not. Of course, "his blood" may not be literal, and could refer to his bloodline (Elayne's babies, Galad, or even Luc), but the blood being shed to free the world from the DO could happen in Caemlyn.
1) "His blood on the rocks of SG"
Well, we've all assumed that would happen AT SG, but now, it may not. Of course, "his blood" may not be literal, and could refer to his bloodline (Elayne's babies, Galad, or even Luc), but the blood being shed to free the world from the DO could happen in Caemlyn.
Including Elayne; the prophecy could mean her dying in miscarriage at the BT saves the world, theoretically, though that would hack me off on half a dozen levels. It could happen near Caemlyn, theoretically, but giving the BTs walls such a pivotal role with no more or overt hints than the fact they're jet black (as they should be, really) and Taim brought them would be like a mystery where the murderer is a country club waiter who only appeared in half a mute paragraph to serve tea on page three, and never had a stated motive or relationship to the victim until the reveal.
2) Taim's status.
Feed the Taim/Moridin fires somewhat more, doesn't it? I mean, bringing SG rock into the BT for just some 3rd Age DF seems a bit extravagant, doesn't it? Maybe there is some property to it that makes it necessary, perhaps its a part of the "key" to the dreamspike now in use? But still, the fact that Moridin's palace is also made of Black seems to jump right out at me.
Of course, we now know that the term "palace" was used a bit loosely. But still, I think Taim must either be Moridin, or his proxy.
Feed the Taim/Moridin fires somewhat more, doesn't it? I mean, bringing SG rock into the BT for just some 3rd Age DF seems a bit extravagant, doesn't it? Maybe there is some property to it that makes it necessary, perhaps its a part of the "key" to the dreamspike now in use? But still, the fact that Moridin's palace is also made of Black seems to jump right out at me.
Of course, we now know that the term "palace" was used a bit loosely. But still, I think Taim must either be Moridin, or his proxy.
Nearly as great as killing my second favorite character, however, would be a cheap copout by making the BTs walls the pivotal prophecy element. I could be mistaken, but believe Taim has been around and active on camera too long to be Ishamael. Not to be Be'lal though, if RJ brought him back early and just never told us. And before we go through this again: Mo can only balefire a few seconds of the pattern, if the DO was watching (which he would every reason to do with three Forsaken converging on Rand as he proved his destiny by drawing the second greatest sa'angreal in history) in time to see and recognize her forming the weave he may well have had time to snatch Be'lal before-before she hit him. Long shot, but not non-viable, and I am sticking with it until disproven.
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This message last edited by Joel on 22/06/2012 at 11:22:39 PM
So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 12:57:37 AM
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Maybe Shaidar Haran's physical limitation to SG can be bypassed by moving tainted rocks elsewhere? *NM*
23/05/2012 03:10:59 AM
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Not the palace...
23/05/2012 03:32:59 AM
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That is good logic, but the flip side is: Why would RJ bother to specify that if it were minutiae?
23/05/2012 11:22:24 AM
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Wouldn't have taken any time away from creating the ending.
23/05/2012 02:58:32 PM
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It just seems an odd thing to mention purely as background color.
23/05/2012 08:17:45 PM
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Re: It just seems an odd thing to mention purely as background color.
23/05/2012 08:42:09 PM
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Yeah, my bet is it is something more like that.
23/05/2012 09:14:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, my bet is it is something more like that.
24/05/2012 02:23:54 AM
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His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
25/05/2012 01:38:30 AM
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Re: His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
27/05/2012 04:32:24 PM
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Re: His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
03/06/2012 08:44:57 AM
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Forgive me if I missed it, but I think the most obvious points haven't been discussed:
22/06/2012 10:59:02 PM
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Be'laim FTW, but technically half the Andoran nobility is Rands blood.
22/06/2012 11:15:12 PM
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Re: Why would RJ bother to specify that if it were minutiae?
23/05/2012 07:58:50 PM
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The way RJ played up everything in the Blight (especially Shayol Ghul) being subsumed in the DO...
23/05/2012 09:07:31 PM
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Re: So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 05:52:12 PM
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Re: So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 08:51:36 PM
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If SG rocks have special properties...
28/05/2012 01:28:28 AM
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Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
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Re: Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
19/06/2012 05:42:21 AM
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Re: Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
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