What I am saying is that I find it a poorly worked out scenario filled with bad decisions. Galad as a Damodred did nothing for the Mantear line without Laman guaranteeing him the Sun Throne. It's the only rational reason the Mantear Royals should have allowed for Galad to be a Damodred rather than a Mantear. In effect Modrellien allowed her line of the Mantear family to die out by not having Galad inherit the High seat when Tigrain vanished. This potentially weakened Mantear for future successions since they track back connections to Ishara which Galad's line of the family in theory would have more of than other Mantear lines.
And no way Taringail marries into Trakand if he is Hier to the Sun Throne. I suspect something else went down between Tigrain vanishing and Morgase becoming Queen that at least put doubt on the succession to the Sun Throne and clearly had Taringail in an uncertain enough situation to renounce his lineage and potential for the Crown in order to marry Morgase as a Trakand, probably hoping Laman would eventually name Galad Hier if Laman saw political advantage in the Trakand union ... Thus leading to his hope of his children each being Monarchs. The war and assention of Riatin naturally changed that and probably set up his own demise for playing the Game in an attempt to claim a Throne for himself.
I believe we are missing quite a bit of information on how Galad ended up with a "standard" inheritance. I suspect the prequels planned for between New Spring and EotW would have addressed this more closely as it plays a large, albeit tangental, role in the development of the series and we know Moiraine had been in Elayne's presence at some point before EotW, but likely well after Taringail's death since she says she could sense Elayne's potential which likely means it was within the same year as her journey to the Two Rivers. Not to mention Moiraine doesn't exactly love her family so I can't see her dropping in to see her half brother at the Caemlyn court.
Regardless I find it foolish that the Mantears shuffled a member of their Royal line to a foreign House rather than make him High Seat when his grand mother died. Consider if Galad had a daughter and Morgase died without female issue ... Galad's daughter would have been a very likely candidate to succeed, but if she was a Damodred she would be ineligeable.
And no way Taringail marries into Trakand if he is Hier to the Sun Throne. I suspect something else went down between Tigrain vanishing and Morgase becoming Queen that at least put doubt on the succession to the Sun Throne and clearly had Taringail in an uncertain enough situation to renounce his lineage and potential for the Crown in order to marry Morgase as a Trakand, probably hoping Laman would eventually name Galad Hier if Laman saw political advantage in the Trakand union ... Thus leading to his hope of his children each being Monarchs. The war and assention of Riatin naturally changed that and probably set up his own demise for playing the Game in an attempt to claim a Throne for himself.
I believe we are missing quite a bit of information on how Galad ended up with a "standard" inheritance. I suspect the prequels planned for between New Spring and EotW would have addressed this more closely as it plays a large, albeit tangental, role in the development of the series and we know Moiraine had been in Elayne's presence at some point before EotW, but likely well after Taringail's death since she says she could sense Elayne's potential which likely means it was within the same year as her journey to the Two Rivers. Not to mention Moiraine doesn't exactly love her family so I can't see her dropping in to see her half brother at the Caemlyn court.
Regardless I find it foolish that the Mantears shuffled a member of their Royal line to a foreign House rather than make him High Seat when his grand mother died. Consider if Galad had a daughter and Morgase died without female issue ... Galad's daughter would have been a very likely candidate to succeed, but if she was a Damodred she would be ineligeable.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
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Thoughts...
21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
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Mat and the madness...
21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
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Not Egwene though...
21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
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Re: Mat and the madness...
22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
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Re: Agreed...
27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
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30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
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We don't fully know...
30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Re: That makes no sense
29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
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Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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