No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
While all true, it doesn't explain why Galad is a Damodred or what advantage his being a Damodred has in the situation.
He is a Damodred because that was how the treaty was signed. You can't simply change your name, after.
All of the above still doesn't explain why Modrellein and Tigrain would have allowed any of Tigrain's children to have thier fathers family name.
Because the father was, politically, as powerful as Tigraine, and like her, heir to a throne. Like I said, compare it to one of Faile's children being heir to Saldea, and another being heir to the Two Rivers. That is a powerful position to be in. Tigraine would have gotten (presumably) a daughter to rule Andor and a son to rule Cairhein. Since the future King and Queen would be brother and sister, wars between the nations would stop. That's the advantage Mordrellein saw in Galad being a Damodred.
It's not like anyone expected Tigrain to not rule as Queen of Andor someday. As both male and felmale children of the Royal line have duty to the country it seems unlikely that any child of this union would be put into such a politically disadvantaged position as Galad would have been in as a Damodred in a Mantear Royal house.
Why is a Damodred in a disadvantage? As heir to the throne of Cairhein, he wouldn't be a part of House Mantear!
While Laman and Tigrain still lived Galad would have no shot at inheriting any Crown as a Damodred.
Why does Tigraine enter the equation? Laman, however, was old, and likely to die before Galad, which made Galad second in line for the Cairheinin throne when he was born.
Taringale's ambitions were just that, he was no longer Heir to the throne and when the dust settled Barthanes ended up as Damodred High Seat.
This was post-Aiel war though. They had no way of anticipating Taringail's removal from the succession because of a future marriage to Morghase when they were signing the treaty for his marriage to Tigraine! At that point, the hope was that Taringail would take the throne of Cairhein when Laman died, and Galad would be his heir. Tigraine would take the throne of Andor, and her daughter with Taringail would be heir. That was the plan...
What is even more strange is that Galad also ended up ousted as High Seat of Mantear since he was a direct Hier to that title and the succession should have been clean and simple.
He was not and heir. As a Damodred, he had no claim to the High Seat of Mantear. He wasn't ever in line, and it was never a consideration after Tigraine died. What is worth noting is that he was passed over as High Seat of House Damodred. That was probably Moghase and Galldrian's doing.
Perhaps after the death of Queen and Daughter Heir Taringail decided to reclaim Galad as a Damodred for some reason.
Why would he have to reclaim him? He was already a Damodred, by Mordrellein's treaty!
No clue what that would have gained him unless that made marrying Morgase cleaner.
You seem to be confused. Galad was already born, and a Damodred from birth, when Taringail married Morghase. Taringail had no choice in Galad's name.
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Mat and the madness...
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Not Egwene though...
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
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Rand's dreams...
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
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Agreed...
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
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I think you're both wrong...
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
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You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
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We don't fully know...
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You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
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I am not contesting the information we have
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You're impossible...
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
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Re: That makes no sense
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Only one other thing...
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
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