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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
If Mat plans a rendezvous with Tuon accompanied by Moiraine, matters with damane could quickly come to a head as well. He did not bull his way through the Tower of Ghenjei, losing an eye and Jain Farstrider along the way, just to see his wife slap a collar around Moiraines neck and teach her to speak in a timid third person.

I don't see it happening. The only way Mat is going to Ebou Dar is by Travelling. Grady will be showing up about twelve hours after we last saw them. Grady can easily make two gateways. Moiraine wants to go to Rand and I think that's what she'll do (as soon as she gets clothes).

Right now Mat has no intention of going to Ebou Dar, so something has to put it in his head. That something either has to be going to Merrilor and talking to Rand who has talked to Aviendha about what she saw of the future, or his finding out about the trollocs attacking Caemlyn.

Whether each does so quickly enough to suit Moiraine, however, is another matter, so you may be right about her absence from Ebou Dar. Still, ALL roads lead to Rand now, including Mats; he and Moiraine could as easily go to Ebou Dar together after a reunion with Rand as before one. The biggest problem with that is neither Moiraine nor Rand will want her out of his sight (or vice versa) once they are rejoined, but then, the Seanchan prophecies contend Rand has another rendezvous of his own scheduled with Tuon. Mat going to Ebou Dar is not so surprising; I doubt he wants to leave his blushing bride on her own long knowing the Last Battle is imminent (arguably already begun,) particularly given that intrigue and assassination is to Seanchan what baseball is to the US.

The bold is why I don't think she'd go along. What I think more likely is that Mat goes to Ebou Dar to get help with Caemlyn, or he goes to Rand and finds out Rand wants the Seanchan at Merrilor, so Mat goes to Ebou Dar for Rand and the Seanchan end up at Merrilor (I believe that's what happened in Aviendha's dream anyway. Not the how of it happening, just that Tuon was there).

Snoopy is already tying it altogether again for the finale, after all, as is almost obligatory in most cases. It would be kind of bizarre to reference the greater skill and power that both linking and "coed" linking provides, establish so many main characters as among the strongest channelers, then scatter them across the continent for the Last Battle. Just as all three ta'veren will be present, so will most of the surviving Lightfriend cast. Again, according to the Seanchan prophecies, the Last Battle CANNOT occur until Rand kneels before the Crystal Throne. Once reunited, Moiraine and Rand will probably be joined at the hip for the rest of the series anyway, but it is hard to imagine them having a conversation that goes

Rand: Hey, Mo, I'm leaving to meet the imperious ruler of the people who enslave every channeler on sight and conquered half the Westlands.

Moiraine: Take a sweater....

If I had my wish, Moiraine and Mat would be bestest friends and do everything together for the entire book. Every once in awhile Nynaeve and Rand can be involved with them. And we would forget that Perrin exists.

You forgot to include Elayne; I concede she is less fun since she got pregnant, but she is ALWAYS fun in concert with Mat. And, y'know, leggy blondes.... :winky:

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aMoL UK cover and Blurb (SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!) fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM 2790 Views
Thoughts... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM 1290 Views
Re: Thoughts... Knightscape - 21/05/2012 08:04:29 PM 1207 Views
Re: Thoughts... darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM 1119 Views
Re: Thoughts... DomA - 21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM 1317 Views
*nods in agreement* *NM* darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 10:46:48 PM 433 Views
Re: Thoughts... Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:08:50 PM 1162 Views
Re: Thoughts... DomA - 22/05/2012 01:02:16 AM 1153 Views
Re: Thoughts... DomA - 21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM 1226 Views
Mat and the madness... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM 1172 Views
Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM 1186 Views
Not Egwene though... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM 996 Views
Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM 974 Views
Fair enough. fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 11:31:10 PM 991 Views
Agreed that it's an odd blurb darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 11:45:03 PM 1048 Views
Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness Datakim - 22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM 1050 Views
I was thinking about that... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2012 02:35:25 AM 954 Views
Re: I was thinking about that... darius_sedai - 22/05/2012 03:41:48 AM 1020 Views
Re: Mat and the madness... DomA - 22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM 1108 Views
Rand's dreams... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM 1031 Views
She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney darius_sedai - 22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM 1188 Views
I'd like some evidence for this. fionwe1987 - 22/05/2012 04:14:27 AM 977 Views
It's still ingrained in the society darius_sedai - 22/05/2012 01:28:05 PM 1082 Views
Moridin and the link Datakim - 28/05/2012 01:45:43 AM 908 Views
Re: Thoughts... Vidarfe - 23/05/2012 01:06:10 PM 966 Views
Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her. Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM 1169 Views
Oh read the books will you? fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM 1148 Views
I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author. Cannoli - 22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM 1133 Views
What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn." Joel - 22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM 1055 Views
As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar Deadsy - 22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM 1135 Views
At this stage, all roads lead to Rand. Joel - 22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM 968 Views
Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand. Deadsy - 23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM 1006 Views
Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. Joel - 23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM 988 Views
Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. Deadsy - 23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM 1077 Views
It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal. Joel - 23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM 1039 Views
Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal. kHz1000 - 24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM 962 Views
Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal. Deadsy - 25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM 1031 Views
I am still not so sure how clear that metonym is. Joel - 25/05/2012 01:47:10 AM 1000 Views
Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. DomA - 24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM 1130 Views
Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel... entyti - 24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM 1407 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel... DomA - 26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM 1555 Views
Agreed... fionwe1987 - 26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM 1090 Views
I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends darius_sedai - 26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM 962 Views
Re: Agreed... DomA - 27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM 1029 Views
I think you're both wrong... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM 1033 Views
I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession darius_sedai - 27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM 962 Views
Re: I think you're both wrong... DomA - 27/05/2012 07:10:08 PM 1023 Views
I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander darius_sedai - 28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM 1047 Views
Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander DomA - 28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM 967 Views
That makes no sense darius_sedai - 28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM 1024 Views
Taringail was Laman's heir... fionwe1987 - 28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM 966 Views
You are answering the wrong question darius_sedai - 29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM 943 Views
No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it. fionwe1987 - 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM 1002 Views
Yet not one of these things actually happened darius_sedai - 29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM 991 Views
You're being absurd... fionwe1987 - 30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM 943 Views
Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM 929 Views
fionwe1987 - 30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM 910 Views
Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne? darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM 1072 Views
We don't fully know... fionwe1987 - 30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM 819 Views
You just flipped your last statement darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM 1057 Views
You seem extremely confused... fionwe1987 - 30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM 972 Views
Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM 954 Views
Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have DomA - 30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM 1121 Views
I am not contesting the information we have darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM 1051 Views
You're impossible... DomA - 30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM 976 Views
Wow ... Not sure what is bringing out the aggression darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 10:19:18 PM 913 Views
*sigh* DomA - 30/05/2012 11:45:28 PM 990 Views
DomA swore *NM* Sidious - 31/05/2012 03:39:24 PM 1079 Views
Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then DomA - 30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM 1173 Views
See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM 901 Views
Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear.... DomA - 30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM 936 Views
Re: That makes no sense DomA - 29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM 1113 Views
Only one other thing... fionwe1987 - 29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM 846 Views
No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM* darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM 607 Views
Re: Only one other thing... DomA - 30/05/2012 12:32:58 PM 903 Views
Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM 977 Views
Bryne was First Prince Regent. fionwe1987 - 30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM 930 Views
Fair enough ... Thanks for providing a quote darius_sedai - 30/05/2012 06:22:52 AM 1123 Views
Re: Fair enough ... Thanks for providing a quote DomA - 30/05/2012 04:38:29 PM 949 Views
No he wasn't DomA - 30/05/2012 04:16:02 PM 925 Views
No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal darius_sedai - 26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM 867 Views
Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal DomA - 27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM 951 Views
Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal darius_sedai - 27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM 920 Views
Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal DomA - 27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM 1078 Views
I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage darius_sedai - 28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM 1041 Views
Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage DomA - 28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM 1141 Views
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM* darius_sedai - 28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM 519 Views
He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon. Joel - 25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM 1277 Views
Soon might be relative... DomA - 27/05/2012 02:08:53 AM 1465 Views
Sul'dam fionwe1987 - 27/05/2012 09:03:57 AM 1309 Views
Re: Sul'dam DomA - 27/05/2012 05:54:57 PM 1051 Views
Right, then; here we go.... Joel - 03/06/2012 08:45:20 AM 915 Views
Re: As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar Grutz - 23/05/2012 05:28:17 PM 974 Views
I think I read a fan fiction like that once *NM* Deadsy - 23/05/2012 08:04:42 PM 501 Views
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