Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
Datakim Send a noteboard - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM
Strikes me that had Aran'gar effectively compelled Egwene she would not have gotten out of trouble and been given a new assignment. Instead she had to spend months sleeping next to Egwene simply to mess with her Dreaming ability ... If Aran'gar had more skill with Compulsion she would have done the job and moved on ... An effectively Compelled Amyrlin would have been a powerful tool for the Shadow.
When was Aran'gar punished? Forgive me but I cannot recall right now where it fits in the timeline? Did it happen before or after Aran'gar was exposed by that visiting Asha'man and had to flee?
As for using compulsion, we learned in TGS (and from Sammael in LoC) that blatant compulsion that totally rewrites the personality of the victim leaves clear signs that others can see. Not to mention that Nynave has already demonstrated that a sufficiently skilled healer can detect compulsion. If Egwene suddenly started acting strangely, skilled yellow ajah healers would certainly have examined her and Aran'gar would have been exposed.
So if there is compulsion, it would have to be very subtle work, working with Egwenes mind to enhance some pre-existing aspects and weakening others. Even that might be usefull to the shadow though. A subtle compulsion to strenghten Egwenes fear and distrust of the Dragon Reborn could be the difference between success and failure in the meeting at Fields of Merrilor.
I would also presume that compulsion of that sort (subtle and carefull) is harder to fight off rather than blatant compulsion (such as Moghedien erasing memories from Nynaeve). I don't think any of the sisters Verin compelled ever broke free?
Egwene under compulsion
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To add to that
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Re: Egwene under compulsion
18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM
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Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM
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Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM
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Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing.
19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM
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Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing.
20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM
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Fair point on Ishamael
20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM
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Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM
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Re: Egwene under compulsion
19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM
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The Headaches
19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM
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I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene
19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM
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Re: Egwene under compulsion
20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM
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Like I said before...
20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM
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20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM
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Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things
21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM
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Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things
21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM
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No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary
21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM
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Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will
21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM
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Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will
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