That's because, as we've learned from Elza, Verin was very clever and compelled all the sisters to find in themselves the deepest motives they could find to swear an oath to TDR. It's the kind of cleverness you'd expect from Graendal. You can't get people to do what you wish unless you understand their psychology really well and find the right triggers and buttons to use.
The descriptions of Compulsion in TGS broke the established working of Compulsion in the previous books. Previously, it was mostly about psychology, and a very deft touch at casting the net on the right areas of the brains so you interfere with just what thought processes or emotions you mean to alter, which is why Graendal is the best. Brandon got it wrong that it's about casting complex weaves in which the orders are included... he forgot it's well established Graendal's speciality isn't brain anatomy or messing in the brain with the OP (Semirhage can do this, to stimulate nerve centers etc.) but non-OP psychology....
There's zero evidence of Egwene being compelled about anything. We've got countless POVs and none of her decisions are unexplained/unmotivated.
The biggest piece of evidence Halima never compelled Egwene (who isn't a good subject at all for Compulsion.. you forget where her great Dreaming talent comes from: her willpower!) is that she had to use Sheriam and Delana and pressure them so much to get to know what Egwene was up to, and Aran'gar beat Sheriam because Sheriam wasn't getting enough information to her in time! If Aran'gar was compelling Egwene, she could ask Egwene for whatever information she wanted while she was under the weaves, and with the headaches Halima had no shortage of occasions. The other related confirmation Halima didn't have her under compulsion is how she constantly asked questions or tried to remain around when Egwene had meetings, to spy.
What Halima did was give Egwene blinding headaches, which had two advantages: justify being around her more to spy, and interfering with her Dreaming ability which could become dangerous to the Shadow (as Moridin well knew, he's a Dreamer himself). It also made Egwene crankier, tired and less concentrated. Halima's interference worked but not so well. Egwene still Dreamed, if not as much as usual.
As you point out Egwene would not be a good candidate for compulsion because she is very strong willed. It does not mean that Aran'gar would not at least try to use it on her.
In some cases Aran'gar could have totally failed, or totally succeeded, or partially succeeded.
Just a theory: Aran'gar attempts compulsion on Egwene but she does not succumb to it, she does however start experiencing some bad headaches as her subconscious fights the directives. Aran'gar notices the results of the compulsion attempt and decides to purposely intensify the headaches. The purpose of this would be to interfere with Egwene's dreaming talent, to provide a reason for Aran'gar to remain close by, and to make her more irritable and stressed out in order to make her more pliable. Aran'gar could use the time around Egwene to experiment, (which fears to play on, which insecurities to use, which likes/dislikes that could be expanded on).
Aran'gar had a lot of time and many opportunities to try many different things.
All good things come to those who wait.
Egwene under compulsion
- 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM
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- 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM
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To add to that
- 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM
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Re: To add to that
- 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM
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Re: To add to that
- 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM
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Re: To add to that
- 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM
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Re: Egwene under compulsion
- 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM
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Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
- 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM
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Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
- 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM
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Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing.
- 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM
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Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing.
- 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM
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Fair point on Ishamael
- 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM
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Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge"
- 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM
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Re: Egwene under compulsion
- 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM
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The Headaches
- 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM
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I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene
- 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM
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- 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM
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Like I said before...
- 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM
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Re: Like I said before...
- 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM
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Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things
- 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM
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Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things
- 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM
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No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary
- 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM
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Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will
- 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM
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Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will
- 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM
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