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Re: I think it is EG and Nyn DomA Send a noteboard - 03/05/2012 07:38:36 PM
..and see my post above about the pose. You have to remember that Rand is now a one handed swordsman in a hand-and-a-half sword fighting world. The grip and position make complete sense to me in that light.


Oh, I know it's a japanese defensive form, see it countless times in movies and martial art books, and yes, it thus fits with the mix of japanese and asian inspired forms Jordan used. It's just that Callandor isn't really a sword, just shaped like one, and the DO is fairly unlikely to be holding a sword too. This defensive position was used by samurai in fights against another swordman.

Whelan used artistic license. In part it's for graphic reasons: that form lets him position Callandor below the book title, and it's just a better composition this way.

The other reason is this is easily decodable as a defensive position, which fits thematically. It helps create the impression Rand there is circumspect and knows what he's doing, while having him with a bent leg in front is dynamic and help show his determination.

The "artistic license" bit is that Whelan had Rand hold Callandor as if he intended to use it as a real sword against another swordman. It's not a terribly comfortable position to hold for long a san'angreal while walking (he doesn't even appear to have a scabbard for it, incidentally).

As for Egwene, I don't fully disagree. I think it's more likely to be Moiraine depicted that way, but I also noticed the absence of the blue stone on Moiraine's forehead and the fact she has a white dress. It's more something Egwene might wear, Moiraine usually sticks to shades of blue. Not sure we can trust that very far on a book cover, though.

I think it's more likely to be Moraine, but I won't dismiss the possibility this is Egwene and Brandon/Harriet wished not to make it too obvious because, unlike Nynaeve whom Rand asked to go to SG with him in TOM, it would be a spoiler to reveal Egwene and Rand will resolve enough of their issues for Egwene to follow him to SG and for Rand to trust her to come and link with him.

If I stick to my "pattern analysis" method though, I had noted down (it seemed) Nynaeve and Moiraine would at some point meaningfully work together during the finale, so I'm not surprised to see Moiraine there. Spotting the patterns RJ created through the series has never been very reliable for predictions/theories, though. It's relatively easy to spot repeating patterns when you have all the scenes to compare their common elements (and RJ was very crafty, for e.g. he can have an allusion to Egwene's struggle to be the Amyrlin of a reunited tower disguised as Egwene spotting the ruins of a Tower in the distance and being unable to find saidar the same day to light a flame/fire...), but it's much harder to spot the patterns when you're missing scenes, and even harder to find an interpretation. A pattern is there for Nyaneve/Moiraine among others easier to connect with the LB, but it could just as well be tied to both of them joining forces to go help Lan (or solving their little rivalry over him), or a dozen other interpretations - it won't come clear before reading AMOL.
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The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 03:52:14 PM 5023 Views
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*NM* - 05/05/2012 09:04:15 PM 1909 Views
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I really like it - 03/05/2012 05:54:51 PM 2722 Views
The sword grip is not akward or wrong - 03/05/2012 06:20:54 PM 2453 Views
something like this? - 03/05/2012 06:46:59 PM 3038 Views
Its the sword thats not a sword (its a night light!) - 04/05/2012 04:47:27 PM 2454 Views
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Me, too! - 12/05/2012 01:18:06 AM 2520 Views
Well... - 03/05/2012 06:09:51 PM 2820 Views
I think it is EG and Nyn - 03/05/2012 06:24:13 PM 2514 Views
Pretty sure it's Mo and Nyn - 03/05/2012 06:40:49 PM 2552 Views
Yeah... - 03/05/2012 07:55:32 PM 2467 Views
when did Nynaeve cut her hair? - 08/05/2012 07:33:04 PM 4058 Views
It was burned off during her testing for the shawl. - 12/06/2012 02:53:43 AM 3210 Views
Egwene is a distinct possibility... - 03/05/2012 11:37:48 PM 2603 Views
She is - 04/05/2012 12:15:21 AM 2707 Views
I don't know... - 04/05/2012 12:25:53 AM 2423 Views
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What books have you been reading? - 11/05/2012 01:57:31 AM 2563 Views
I agree - 11/05/2012 02:51:38 PM 2668 Views
The other quotes you requested, as promised. - 13/05/2012 03:29:41 AM 2623 Views
You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting... - 13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM 2322 Views
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Exactly... - 13/05/2012 05:53:17 PM 2387 Views
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Re- - 21/05/2012 02:43:49 AM 2825 Views
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Then she wouldn't be a "protagonist" - 14/05/2012 04:38:34 AM 2369 Views
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Re: Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 21/05/2012 03:28:48 AM 2314 Views
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Yeah... - 14/05/2012 07:47:16 AM 2510 Views
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Re: For the most part, very little interpretation was required. - 21/05/2012 06:21:48 AM 2460 Views
Look at their foreheads - 16/05/2012 08:38:51 AM 2558 Views
Re: I think it is EG and Nyn - 03/05/2012 07:38:36 PM 2512 Views
I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 03/05/2012 09:05:58 PM 2345 Views
Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 03/05/2012 11:28:42 PM 2498 Views
Idea - 04/05/2012 10:11:05 AM 2487 Views
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Or.... - 04/05/2012 12:19:16 PM 2363 Views
This would explain the hidden hand - 04/05/2012 08:54:00 PM 2504 Views
That's a good point. - 04/05/2012 08:59:41 PM 2635 Views
Nah... - 07/05/2012 01:56:13 PM 2556 Views
Can you draw a blade - 08/05/2012 06:00:28 AM 2484 Views
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 04/05/2012 02:49:51 PM 1565 Views
Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 04/05/2012 07:42:12 PM 2601 Views
Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 07/05/2012 08:02:26 PM 2382 Views
Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 07/05/2012 09:32:45 PM 2622 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 13/05/2012 10:56:06 AM 2354 Views
Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 07:25:37 PM 2359 Views
Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 07:36:09 PM 2486 Views
It's his left hand Rand lost *NM* - 03/05/2012 08:00:01 PM 1931 Views
Thanks for the imput! *NM* - 03/05/2012 08:24:59 PM 2303 Views
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looks *$%$%*@ great *NM* - 04/05/2012 02:47:00 AM 2041 Views
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Nyn cut her braid off. *NM* - 08/05/2012 06:55:02 PM 2090 Views
I thought it was burned off during her test for Aes Sedaihood. *NM* - 08/05/2012 07:25:51 PM 951 Views
I don't remember this at all *NM* - 08/05/2012 07:51:04 PM 2080 Views
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A misplaced logo? *NM* - 10/05/2012 08:24:52 AM 1954 Views
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Partially concur - 10/05/2012 01:17:31 PM 2326 Views
She's in the Pit of F*ing Doom. Ben Stein would be excited *NM* - 12/05/2012 04:22:44 AM 905 Views
i agree with the big about how Moiraine should be depicted - 12/05/2012 11:04:53 PM 1401 Views
you can see a second weapon in Rand's belt too - 13/05/2012 08:51:34 PM 1359 Views
That looks pretty cool, better than most of the other WoT covers - 26/06/2012 07:37:29 AM 1180 Views

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