But that has absolutely no legal bearing whatsoever. Did the United States cede New Orleans when they failed The city? You could argue this point all over the place, but it's ultimately the legal side that matters here.
Andor is a feudal society, and the Queen had authority over the Two Rivers because she promised to protect it. She failed, she no longer has authority.
As Elayne says in ToM, any Andoran soldiers and tax collectors would have been rebuffed by the TR folk in the past. They obviously didn;t expect Trollocs, and didn't consider themselves Andoran citizens. They were basically in a passive rebellion against Andor for hundreds of years, and Andor let that pass.
The feudal concept goes both ways. You can demand protection if you pay the lords taxes and agree for your men to be levied when he leaves them. The TR people didn't want any of the latter. I don't see where they can claim the right to secede on the basis of an invasion no one could have possibly foreseen, and which Andoran soldiers would have arrived in force to defeat the moment they heard of it.
After all, if the TR folk were loyal Andoran citizens, why in the world didn't they write to Morghase the moment Trollocs poked their heads into Andor in tEotW? Why not warn her some might head her way? Why, a "loyal TR man" even visited Queen Morghase and despite her just treatment of him, said nothing to her about a threat to her kingdom!
Bad Elayne! No biscuit!
- 18/02/2012 10:13:54 PM
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You are assigning your 21st century view onto people with totally different circumstances
- 18/02/2012 11:33:56 PM
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You are assigning your knee-jerk assumptions to my post
- 19/02/2012 03:29:02 AM
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As per usual you choose to assume the people of WoT have your belief system when you comment on the
- 19/02/2012 05:31:57 PM
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It has nothing to do with a specific system of morality, but basic natural law.
- 19/02/2012 11:26:13 PM
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Where were Mat and Rand when they found Domon? In a wilderness along the RIVER.
- 20/02/2012 12:40:38 AM
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Re: Where were Mat and Rand when they found Domon? In a wilderness along the RIVER.
- 22/02/2012 01:10:54 AM
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Just read the books. Including the BWB ... It spells it out for those who care to read.
- 22/02/2012 02:48:45 AM
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The Queen of Andor lost all authority over the Two Rivers when she failed to protect it. *NM*
- 25/03/2012 02:53:23 PM
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Which is why they elected their own lord
- 25/03/2012 06:25:31 PM
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Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
- 18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
- 20/02/2012 03:11:14 AM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
- 20/02/2012 06:22:21 AM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
- 22/02/2012 06:23:36 PM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
- 22/02/2012 09:03:53 PM
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"Damn sister married the Pope instead of my chosen Lord Ohsoimportant"
- 25/03/2012 03:50:06 PM
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Okay, I admit it, there is no way I am reading such a long post about Elayne.....
- 19/02/2012 08:14:53 PM
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The Caraline treatment.
- 25/03/2012 02:41:12 PM
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Do you Colavaer Saighan? I don't recall Caraline having her lands and titles stripped
- 25/03/2012 10:44:57 PM
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I think she did an admirable job protecting Andor in very challenging circumstances.
- 11/05/2012 12:05:25 AM
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- 11/05/2012 02:10:01 AM
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Re: I think she did an admirable job protecting Andor in very challenging circumstances.
- 24/05/2012 06:45:19 AM
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Generally, I think both her means AND ends were correct; reconciling them was the challenge.
- 30/05/2012 03:55:00 AM
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