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Re: I very much doubt it Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/03/2012 07:33:48 PM
Realistically more people need to know about the death of the Semirhage and the Mesaana for it to be a major blow to the shadow. I see your point that it makes a big difference to the people who saw it directly but it's not big enough in the grand scheme to be a major blow. The black ajah cleansing was way more important, as were the events at the Eye of the World.


I wonder if the Tower advertised the execution of the Black Ajah though? They've strongly denied the existence of the Black since their founding, and I wouldn't put it past them to officially declare that the executions were due to treason i.e. breaking the Tower.


But no need to advertise... It's still a much larger blow than the deaths of Semirhage and Mesaana. Several reasons

1. Losing the Black Ajah cost the Shadow over a hundred trained women channelers
2. Massive loss of influence, the BA gave the Shadow an insider angle into one of their most powerful enemies that in turn allowed them to exert influence over many other groups
3. As others have mentioned this limits their mixed circle capabilities
4. Your own point about Semirhage and Mesaana holds some truth here too. The AS have seen that the Shadow can Ben beaten now, they have witnessed their own weakness and overcome it making them a more potent enemy than before. This coupled with Egwene personally defeating Mesaana makes this event even more significant.


I'm not going to fight too much with you on this, mostly because I think you may be right. I guess it comes from my own huge disrespect for the BA. Thirteen of them escaped in TDR and they accomplished nothing and were defeated easily by Elayne and Nynaeve on different occasions. I think the Forsaken, although defeated, are a hundred times as competent than the Black Ajah. The BA are more like a cult, and most of them have never met more than a few others, meaning that they are disorganized and would suddenly be pulled out of the Tower and then asked to fight with the Power at the Final Battle. It's chaotic and slightly pathetic if you ask me. The dark Ash'aman seem to be far more organized and dangerous.

People mock the Forsaken but they were incredibly destructive in many ways. I'd much rather kill Demandred than a hundred evil Ash'aman.
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