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Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA Send a noteboard - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM
It's one of the few "mystical" things left unexplained. Nothing we've seen other channelers do even comes close to that.

Think about it- an impenetrable barrier, so strong that apparently even the Forsaken couldn't touch it, that was keyed to the reincarnated soul of someone who had been long dead and would not reincarnate for thousands of years.


I also find it weird that it's flawed- obviously they knew how, in the AoL, to make non-flawed sa'angreal. The best argument I could think of would be making it flawed like that was necessary, because it would force Rand to act in certain ways he might otherwise not, but it's still weird. Plus, WoT doesn't really have that kind of prophecy manipulation that you see in other books, like Sword of Truth, for example.

The flaw was either deliberate or it was unwittingly done but designed by the 'Pattern'. Considering it magnifies the taint alone, it is possible that no one knew of the flaw until the Breaking started.


That's kind of stating the obvious don't you think? How they could possibly know it magnified the effects of the Taint before saidin got tainted?

As for the magnification you're making a series of assumptions. Cadsuane doesn't even know what the True Power is. When she said it magnified the taint, she meant the effects of the taint on a channeller's mind, no more. Thenin an in an answer to a question about that angreal Moridin said he could use, Jordan said that angreal/san agreal made for the OP wouldn't work with the TP (so it was to use it to channel saidin Moridin could have a use for it). The flaw isn't mysterious let alone deliberate, Jordan explained quite well it's shabby manufacturing caused by the war conditions.

Finally, about Rand using the TP again, it sounds absurd that he would (remember the state of mind Rand had to be in to be able to embrace it.... It's the opposite of how he must be to face the DO...haven't you noticed how Rand's power and even its nature is magnified after he embraced the complete opposite of the state he was in when he touched the TP? ) but even more that Shai'tan would let him draw it again anyway, especially so that Rand could fight him. This is about as well reasonned as Lanfear's stupid belief that she could destroy the Creator with the OP. Whatever BS said obliquely not to confirm Shai'tan let Rand access the TP, Jordan flat out said access to the TP depends strictly on the DO letting you.
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What's so special about Callandor? - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2158 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1097 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1167 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1230 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1063 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1092 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1119 Views
Hmm.... - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1045 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 922 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 975 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 870 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 957 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 893 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 572 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1074 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1079 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 949 Views
Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 931 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 904 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 812 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 797 Views
I actually don't see it that way - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 961 Views
depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 1013 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 743 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 874 Views
Odds are you are correct - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 738 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 704 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 767 Views
That's not correct. - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 771 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1040 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 697 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1053 Views
You explantion is - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 802 Views
Agreed *NM* - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 402 Views
RJ Quote: - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 761 Views
Exactly - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1063 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 751 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 772 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 920 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 765 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 748 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 855 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 797 Views
Yep . - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 769 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 884 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 871 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 680 Views
Sounds like the One Ring - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 875 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1029 Views
No, I don't agree - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 980 Views
That makes no sense... - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 812 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 813 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 783 Views
He makes a good point though. - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 808 Views
Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 758 Views
Re: Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 789 Views
I found a couple of quote - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 975 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 801 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 927 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 1001 Views
Re: No, I don't agree - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 974 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 867 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 975 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 794 Views
That's what I meant - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 909 Views

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