I agree. I was going to respond but you covered most of the bases.
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 08/02/2012 04:13:20 PM
Short answer to OP: When the world is falling apart, going through cataclysms and survival is extremely difficult - knowledge and organization is lost.
Also, just pointing out that the Hall of Servants fell during the War of Shadow, before the Breaking even started. As far as we have been shown, after this happened, the Aes Sedai were fractured and were no longer united as a complete entity before Lews Therin lead his strike. A lot of technical skills and knowledge had been lost even before The Breaking (we know this because ter'angreal and angreal creation had regressed sharply after the global infrastructure was destroyed). We actually saw some of this chaos when Rand went to Rhuidean. To give an example, almost all of the knowledge we have of how it played out is restricted to a fraction of one continent that had the Bore on it because the rest of the world fell to chaos during the War. We're talking about a civilization that fell from the use of flying cars, laser pistols and blasters to medieval weaponry. That's a catastrophic loss of technical capability.
Further, strength is not distributed evenly and there was no guarantee that it would even be identified in such a chaotic environment. It is a possibility that many channelers with great potential died during the upheavals before they sparked or could be found & taught. You could have an immensely strong AoL Aes Sedai completely cut off from other channelers protecting a community of refugees and all of their knowledge would have been lost because there was no channeler in that group to pass it on to. Vice versa, you could have a weak Aes Sedai that came across a survivor with greater potential, but the Aes Sedai was not strong enough to use some weaves without a Circle (commonly relied upon in the AoL) so despite having knowledge all they could pass on was basic skills. The system broke down.
Also, just pointing out that the Hall of Servants fell during the War of Shadow, before the Breaking even started. As far as we have been shown, after this happened, the Aes Sedai were fractured and were no longer united as a complete entity before Lews Therin lead his strike. A lot of technical skills and knowledge had been lost even before The Breaking (we know this because ter'angreal and angreal creation had regressed sharply after the global infrastructure was destroyed). We actually saw some of this chaos when Rand went to Rhuidean. To give an example, almost all of the knowledge we have of how it played out is restricted to a fraction of one continent that had the Bore on it because the rest of the world fell to chaos during the War. We're talking about a civilization that fell from the use of flying cars, laser pistols and blasters to medieval weaponry. That's a catastrophic loss of technical capability.
Further, strength is not distributed evenly and there was no guarantee that it would even be identified in such a chaotic environment. It is a possibility that many channelers with great potential died during the upheavals before they sparked or could be found & taught. You could have an immensely strong AoL Aes Sedai completely cut off from other channelers protecting a community of refugees and all of their knowledge would have been lost because there was no channeler in that group to pass it on to. Vice versa, you could have a weak Aes Sedai that came across a survivor with greater potential, but the Aes Sedai was not strong enough to use some weaves without a Circle (commonly relied upon in the AoL) so despite having knowledge all they could pass on was basic skills. The system broke down.
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How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
03/02/2012 09:09:39 AM
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It is a little odd. Maybe because channelers weren't united for a while?
03/02/2012 02:24:17 PM
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Re: How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
03/02/2012 02:49:02 PM
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Hey, why don't you reference ANY place in the series a character learns ANY weave from a book?
04/02/2012 07:42:43 AM
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i think it could be
03/02/2012 07:56:18 PM
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THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 07:40:39 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 09:56:48 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 01:57:10 PM
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Have you read the Big White Book? It details some of the events that happened during The Breaking
08/02/2012 04:27:13 PM
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It's always struck me as a tool of the Author more than a good hard fact
04/02/2012 01:40:06 AM
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Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 07:34:45 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 09:48:52 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 03:04:48 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 06:58:41 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 12:00:05 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 04:05:57 AM
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I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 05:53:32 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 07:39:51 PM
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My point was that it's surprising only ONE Healing weave survived
11/02/2012 08:25:02 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 09:11:04 PM
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I agree. I was going to respond but you covered most of the bases.
08/02/2012 04:13:20 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 09:52:35 PM
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You really need to read the BWB sections regarding this
14/02/2012 01:20:20 AM
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he needs to read it just to see it for his own eyes
14/02/2012 02:46:44 AM
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Re: he needs to read it just to see it for his own eyes
14/02/2012 10:15:46 PM
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I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
15/02/2012 03:38:37 PM
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Re: I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
16/02/2012 09:41:29 PM
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That I can agree with
17/02/2012 05:46:49 AM
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Re: That I can agree with
17/02/2012 09:26:50 AM
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Seriously! The Yellow should be ashamed
17/02/2012 01:49:07 PM
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Well to be fair to the Yellow (which generally annoy me as an Ajah)...
17/02/2012 06:20:06 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 09:02:28 PM
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Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
08/02/2012 03:03:49 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
09/02/2012 10:38:23 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
11/02/2012 07:58:40 PM
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The White Tower began construction in 98 AB. Go read the section in the BWB
12/02/2012 01:48:58 AM
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The Wheel Weaves as the Wheel Wills. *NM*
06/02/2012 02:38:36 AM
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I wonder if it'd possible to open gateways based on the memories of a previous incarnation? *NM*
07/02/2012 09:56:25 PM
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except for Rand/LTT and Birgitte, I get the impression that people don't have memories of past lives *NM*
08/02/2012 02:38:00 AM
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