quite a few of the strongest female Aes Sedai could have died during the WOS, leaving weaker women to handle the last bits of the war/ early Breaking period.
although arn't we forgetting the two Aes Sedai that lived among the Jenn Aiel? we get told they are ancient but not how strong they are. they could have known the weave but seeing as they appeared to seclude themselves in the waste maybe they never used it and passed it on.
although arn't we forgetting the two Aes Sedai that lived among the Jenn Aiel? we get told they are ancient but not how strong they are. they could have known the weave but seeing as they appeared to seclude themselves in the waste maybe they never used it and passed it on.
RJ has confirmed those women were not survivors from the AOL. These AS joined the Jenn Aiel in the decades surrounding the founding of the White Tower. The scene were they appear ancient is set several centuries later. The harsh environment they lived in for centuries likely made them age faster (and look older) than average, and not all AS live 600-700 years. Some in the Tower already have signs of great age, like grey hair at 150 (so likely 300 in the AOL. People who live nearly as old as Cadsuane are the exception, not the norm. Don't forget that AS are killed (from having used the Binder), roughly in their middle years. It does not make them age twice as fast, it kills them suddenly in midlife. They never die from "natural causes" and thus they believe channelling makes them immune to all the ailments of old age, and immune to most diseases. That's not entirely true, as we know. Some of the Forsaken mention their fear of the nasty diseases they could catch in a primitive world like the Third Age's (and their doctor isn't exactly one they ever wish to have perform any cure on them!) - so it follows a channeler could eventually catch those and require healing to survive them, not to mention that channelers eventually experience decay like everybody else (eg: Cadsuane's ancient, and toothless, wilder) - it's just unknown among AS because they all die at half they lifespan. Channelling seems to boost the immune system to an extent, and the rest is due to the fact Aes Sedai die from the Binder before entering the phase of their life where they'd be far more likely to develop cancers, cardiac problems and a great deal of syndromes that are far more common past mid-life.
The Aes Sedai in Rhuidean were more likely born fairly late in the Breaking, I would say. The conditions no longer existed for AS to enjoy their AOL lifespan. The same would be true of AS, if not for the Binder. Healing would help, certainly, and they have better living condition than most, but people just don't have modern lifespans (though Jordan has pushed the boundaries of realism somewhat, having a little too many people living way past what is now considered mid-years but who would not so long ago been considered ancient, or exceptional. Mind you, perhaps it's a misconception - if we look at the Two Rivers sample, there seems to be Cenn Buie, then the next oldest characters shown - like Tam, Egwene's parents and so on are many decades younger. They're still a bit exceptional for 18th century conditions, though we have to account for the fact it's pre-industrialization).
How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
03/02/2012 09:09:39 AM
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It is a little odd. Maybe because channelers weren't united for a while?
03/02/2012 02:24:17 PM
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Re: How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
03/02/2012 02:49:02 PM
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Hey, why don't you reference ANY place in the series a character learns ANY weave from a book?
04/02/2012 07:42:43 AM
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i think it could be
03/02/2012 07:56:18 PM
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THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 07:40:39 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 09:56:48 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
04/02/2012 01:57:10 PM
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Have you read the Big White Book? It details some of the events that happened during The Breaking
08/02/2012 04:27:13 PM
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It's always struck me as a tool of the Author more than a good hard fact
04/02/2012 01:40:06 AM
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Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 07:34:45 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 09:48:52 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 03:04:48 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
04/02/2012 06:58:41 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 12:00:05 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 04:05:57 AM
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I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 05:53:32 PM
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not to mention
05/02/2012 07:16:59 PM
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Re: not to mention
05/02/2012 08:50:50 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 07:39:51 PM
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My point was that it's surprising only ONE Healing weave survived
11/02/2012 08:25:02 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
05/02/2012 09:11:04 PM
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I agree. I was going to respond but you covered most of the bases.
08/02/2012 04:13:20 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 09:52:35 PM
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You really need to read the BWB sections regarding this
14/02/2012 01:20:20 AM
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he needs to read it just to see it for his own eyes
14/02/2012 02:46:44 AM
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Re: he needs to read it just to see it for his own eyes
14/02/2012 10:15:46 PM
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I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
15/02/2012 03:38:37 PM
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Re: I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
16/02/2012 09:41:29 PM
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That I can agree with
17/02/2012 05:46:49 AM
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Re: That I can agree with
17/02/2012 09:26:50 AM
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Seriously! The Yellow should be ashamed
17/02/2012 01:49:07 PM
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Well to be fair to the Yellow (which generally annoy me as an Ajah)...
17/02/2012 06:20:06 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
05/02/2012 09:02:28 PM
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Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
08/02/2012 03:03:49 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
09/02/2012 10:38:23 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
11/02/2012 07:58:40 PM
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The White Tower began construction in 98 AB. Go read the section in the BWB
12/02/2012 01:48:58 AM
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The Wheel Weaves as the Wheel Wills. *NM*
06/02/2012 02:38:36 AM
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I wonder if it'd possible to open gateways based on the memories of a previous incarnation? *NM*
07/02/2012 09:56:25 PM
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except for Rand/LTT and Birgitte, I get the impression that people don't have memories of past lives *NM*
08/02/2012 02:38:00 AM
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