Except somehow, Egwene always ends up opposing him on the wrong stuff
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 05/12/2011 03:55:50 PM
So? When Egwene comes out in favor of imprisoning, gentling or killing Rand, you'd have a point. She's wary of his mental state, worried that he isn't doing everything right, especially when there's a chance that quite apart from madness, the advice of a possible Black sister may be informing his actions. If you want to tell me that Bashere wouldn't be similarly worried if he got such reports...
All Egwene is doing is attempting to interfere with what he needs to do to beat the Dark One. Freedom isn't worth much when they try to take your raison d'etre off the table.
Nothing at all, except Moiraine made it clear she swore fealty so she could continue influencing Rand. The whole Tower did not have such a need at that point, and neither did Egwene.
And where exactly do you get the idea that just because the man is the prophesied savior, people should bend over backwards to accommodate him and do exactly what he says? Its one thing to demand that they don't actively work to constrain or cripple him like Elaida. Its entirely different to say everyone should swear fealty. The way the Pattern works, the criticism and opposition from Rand's friends and allies, and his own reactions to them play as much of a part towards his eventual success as anything else. After all, Nynaeve could have made a fatalistic choice to oppose nothing the Dragon does, and let him rain down destruction on the Borderlander army. Cadsuane could have accepted his dangerous emotional state. Tam could have refused to speak to and help his son. After all, no matter how crazy and murderous he gets, he's the Dragon Reborn, so let him do as he likes, swear fealty and shut up, right?
All of that is stuff Egwene has no way of knowing about, and completely unsupported by his actual behavior in the Tower. Meanwhile she had no interest in anything like close observation or moral guidance when she was with him. Once her hero As Sedai was gone and sucking up to his advisor was no longer a motive, she kept away from him except when she wanted something, for herself or the As Sedai faction she had engaged in a long distance romance, and for which she fully intended to betray even the confidences and trust of her boyfriend & intended.
Mostly Egwene just objected to stuff like his intention to kill one of the Forsaken who had openly seized the throne of a powerful nation, or commanding his troops to refrain from rapine, pillage and genocide under the traditional penalty of death, or getting some mutual nookie from a really gorgeous woman who has proven herself at this point to be his most loyal and capable subordinate monarch. so much for her judgement of character.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
It's good to be right. Especially when you see Rand list his good influences in ToM
30/11/2011 03:24:55 PM
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ToM shows that Rand has caught on to who Egwene is
30/11/2011 03:49:34 PM
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That's the really appalling part - it is so ingrained in her, that you can induce such specific acts
30/11/2011 04:38:07 PM
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This is clearly a Sandersonism...
01/12/2011 02:35:39 AM
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Of course it is...
01/12/2011 11:03:49 AM
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Well, she DID try to deflate his ego, but then she punished those who returned the favor to her.
01/12/2011 03:33:11 PM
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Can't think of a single time that Egwene was a good friend to Rand *NM*
01/12/2011 07:16:39 AM
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01/12/2011 01:26:49 PM
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In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest *NM*
01/12/2011 03:04:17 PM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
03/12/2011 02:39:47 AM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
04/12/2011 03:36:10 AM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
04/12/2011 08:05:32 AM
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God, I can't stand Rand fanboys/girls. Some facts, please.
02/12/2011 06:12:14 PM
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I can't stand people who don't know stuff but act like they do.
04/12/2011 03:23:47 AM
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Self-contradiction, much?
04/12/2011 08:20:00 AM
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No, just dealing with a fickle hypocrite.
05/12/2011 04:27:32 AM
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Re: No, just dealing with a fickle hypocrite.
05/12/2011 10:56:17 AM
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Except somehow, Egwene always ends up opposing him on the wrong stuff
05/12/2011 03:55:50 PM
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03/12/2011 12:42:02 AM
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You know, most people don't need the Game of Houses to get their childhood friends to help
04/12/2011 03:24:43 AM
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Re: You know, most people don't need the Game of Houses to get their childhood friends to help
04/12/2011 03:34:45 AM
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04/12/2011 03:36:09 AM
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That's because he (and you, and I) had 18 years/11 books of her bitchery as a reference point
04/12/2011 03:37:16 AM
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04/12/2011 03:38:22 AM
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