I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map - because of what the projection of force would need
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 10/11/2011 03:07:43 PM
I made a distinction between the lines on a map, and the actual occupied territories, with cities, forts and trade routes. A border on a map is not the same thing as a territory that is occupied and well-defended. As mentioned in the book, prior to the Seanchan occupation, Altara's ruler barely could consolidate power in Ebou Dar. Furthermore, Salidar, which is close to Ghealdan, was an abandoned town when the Rebel Aes Sedai came their for a refuge, and we are specifically told that many of the Northern villages along Altara's border were abandoned after the Whitecloak War. This is why I'm saying it is more important for Andor to defend the road east, and if Murandy ever gets it's act together, it would be better if they did the same. A road north to the Two Rivers would do little more than act as a possible sanctuary or fallback position and while the Two Rivers could act as a temporary reinforcement, they simply don't have the necessary numbers if the Seanchan had pushed that far into Ghealdan, it would be hard for forces from the Two Rivers to push them out.
In the grand scheme of things, in order to provide military support, Andor would need both roads because if Ghealdan is threatened, and they can only mobilize across one road to reach them, considering the size of Ghealdan relative to Seanchan territory, the battle would already be lost.
The best solution for Ghealdan would be for Andor and Ghealdan to take the territory north of the Jehannah Road, and consolidate the area by making multiple roads through the Wall east. Technically, the Two Rivers itself could easily find itself in the same situation as Ghealdan, and if the Seanchan pushed their borders north, the situation for Andor and Ghealdan would worsen. This is why I'm disagreeing that a road north would solve anything, while fortifying the eastern territories would be a better solution.
In the grand scheme of things, in order to provide military support, Andor would need both roads because if Ghealdan is threatened, and they can only mobilize across one road to reach them, considering the size of Ghealdan relative to Seanchan territory, the battle would already be lost.
The best solution for Ghealdan would be for Andor and Ghealdan to take the territory north of the Jehannah Road, and consolidate the area by making multiple roads through the Wall east. Technically, the Two Rivers itself could easily find itself in the same situation as Ghealdan, and if the Seanchan pushed their borders north, the situation for Andor and Ghealdan would worsen. This is why I'm disagreeing that a road north would solve anything, while fortifying the eastern territories would be a better solution.
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Ghealdan needs a road
04/11/2011 07:05:21 AM
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Ghealdan does have a road to the east.
04/11/2011 02:37:38 PM
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I wonder if they'll realize they can use their explosives for road work... *NM*
04/11/2011 02:49:05 PM
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I think his point is that road goes through Seachan held northern Altara. *NM*
04/11/2011 06:10:17 PM
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Only if they stay on a southern course. Altara is actually farther south.
04/11/2011 07:43:01 PM
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Not according to the map you provided.
04/11/2011 09:01:50 PM
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Yes it does, actually.
09/11/2011 07:45:25 PM
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No, no it doesn't.
10/11/2011 03:16:19 AM
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I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map - because of what the projection of force would need
10/11/2011 03:07:43 PM
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Re: I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map ...
10/11/2011 06:05:07 PM
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Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
11/11/2011 10:05:09 PM
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Re: Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
12/11/2011 04:08:40 AM
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The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
12/11/2011 06:55:33 AM
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Re: The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
16/11/2011 09:30:09 PM
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Oh, is that what you think happened?
17/11/2011 06:04:12 AM
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Re: Oh, is that what you think happened?
18/11/2011 06:57:53 PM
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I said the road goes through northern Altara, and you disagreed, claiming Altara was further south.
10/11/2011 06:12:11 PM
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Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
11/11/2011 09:58:41 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
11/11/2011 11:28:40 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
14/11/2011 05:44:42 PM
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A road north would be useless at this point.
05/11/2011 04:23:11 PM
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Choices of Ghealdan
07/11/2011 05:55:38 AM
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Re: Choices of Ghealdan
07/11/2011 03:38:03 PM
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A couple points
08/11/2011 12:31:57 PM
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