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How significant is the rest of their lives going to be? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 25/09/2011 04:43:14 AM
For me, I think the end is going to sharply bring out the fact that this is a fantasy, not in the sense that it is a novel with magic and gods, but that there's something firmly unrealistic about the story itself. After 14 long books, and quite major changes in our characters, we would have ended up seeing around three years of their lives. In the cases of many of the channelers, three years is going to be less than 1% of their life.
How does that make it fantastic or unrealistic? Ask some Holocaust survivor about the couple of years he spent locked up and tell him that it was insignificant.

However significant these years turn out to be, they're too young for it to be likely that they'll live their remaining lives without changing phenomenally, especially the channelers. Yet, all that is going to be in the haze of "ever after", unless RJ did a JKR on us and has a 20 years later chapter.
Well, as you alluded in your opening paragraph, they'll go on like normal and lead relatively mundane lives with the Dark One out of the way. The excitement and adventure some of them claimed to crave back in the beginning were really just novel degrees of mundane-ness.

In a way, this is nice. I think the world RJ created, and his characters, are rich enough that we can imagine any number of events in their future.
And you and I can go through every subsequent calender year fighting over what Egwene is likely to do in them!
And we obviously don't want an extended set of novels, ala Star Wars, where the world and the characters are so beaten to death that the original (quite fun) stories lose their meaning and significance. But all that said, I guess it would have been nice if these characters spent more than three years of their life fighting the ultimate source of evil.
I don't know. I think the notion of a decades- or centuries-long vocation dedicated to battling crises on this scale would be a different degree of fantastic and unrealistic.

Anyway, I thought, given the utter listlessness of the board, that we can discuss how the end of the series is going to leave us.
Here's hoping. Otherwise I'm going to have to start posting torture porn fanfiction starring Egwene.

I believe I disagree with your central point, which appears to me to be an issue with the heroes being thrust into this conflict on a colossal scale that defies the imagination (and of which they themselves seem to rather lack a proper understanding - you notice that most of them are only concerned with their immediate issues and the crises occupying their present attention), at the mere outset of their careers and adult lives, leaving a long decline and anticlimax afterwards. Maybe it is done that way so that we can then imagine them building a better world on the rubble afterwards, each of us to our own ideal.

I also don't think we would be missing much by not getting the later years and I disagree with your apparent claim that we are only seeing brief moments in their youth, and that more significant things are to come for them. That may be true for some of the characters, but first and last, the series is about Rand, and I find it hard to believe that anything in his life to come will have more significance than the changes and events of the last two books.

I think that for the rest of the characters' lives, however long or short, the events of these books will define those lives and give shape and meaning to all they do afterwards. I cannot imagine their playing significant roles in the defeat of a malevolent deity and the reordering of the fabric of reality and then filing it away as an interesting youthful experience, like a summer abroad. For good or for ill, Tarmon Gaidon will not be the kind of thing anyone can forget, or grow out of. Just as the series implies or foreshadows Rand's destiny cheating him out of a long, happy and peaceful life as a reward for his heroics, so the characters that walk away from the Last Battle will be unable to forget it. Even if they are untouched in any tangible way, they will almost certainly carry a mental, emotional or spiritual equivalent of Rand's wound from Falme. Some of them will be unable to overcome the horrors and will become consumed by their experiences. Others will grapple with them and overcome and grow stronger for the struggle, but no one will come away unaffected or unchanged in a life-long manner. The Mat, Perrin, Egwene, Nynaeve and Thom we saw at the end of Towers of Midnight will not be the same characters as the ones who are still standing at the end of aMoL. Even if we were to see a glimpse of the world of WoT 200 years later, I would bet that those characters still living would be closer to their states a year or two past Tarmon Gaidon than the post ToM characters would be.
Cannoli
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Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
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The end... - 25/09/2011 03:32:37 AM 1276 Views
How significant is the rest of their lives going to be? - 25/09/2011 04:43:14 AM 890 Views
I won't like it. That's almost a guarantee. - 25/09/2011 06:46:43 AM 731 Views
That was great *NM* - 25/09/2011 11:59:01 AM 259 Views
You are way more insane than I - 26/09/2011 03:00:03 PM 769 Views
That is more similar to what Elaida wanted. - 26/09/2011 09:48:21 PM 599 Views
Potato-potahto. Egwene's main objection to Elaida's adminstration was her own exclusion from it *NM* - 27/09/2011 02:50:53 AM 269 Views
*NM* - 27/09/2011 03:54:41 AM 247 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 27/09/2011 04:41:24 AM 252 Views
OMG, your ending would make EVERYTHING worth it *NM* - 27/09/2011 07:36:51 PM 267 Views
The End will conclude with Rand screaming, "Mother... I want to... F*CK youuu!!!" *NM* - 26/09/2011 04:22:35 AM 313 Views
Bravo. *NM* - 27/09/2011 11:22:03 PM 240 Views
i hope it ends thus: - 26/09/2011 12:16:48 PM 685 Views
While I won't say that would be my favorite ending.... - 27/09/2011 07:11:11 PM 588 Views

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