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Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT Night Walker Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 02:57:25 PM
(I reread Graendal's chapter yesterday and it was very upsetting - I did not remember what happened to her)

No offence but I think Robert Jordan (and most of his fans) was a misogynist. (Or he thought WoT can't compete mainstream fantasy anymore?)

I talk about Shaidar Haran's "punishments". WoT is not an R rated fantasy, so it's really disturbing to read about rapes.

And what makes it worst: many reader claim that these rapes are "fair and square", because they are evil people. Define me this term, evil! Rand, Egwene, Perrin etc. are evil too, they are killed many innocent people, started wars etc.

OK, let's say: they deserved it. But Shaidar Haran did not rape male Forsakens. So, where is the famous Jordan-balance?

What do you think about this?


I think you are sensationalizing this. First, Fades appear to have a “taste” for females. So it’s not a surprise the SH may only target female Forsaken with this treatment. Second, there is nothing to say that it won’t/can’t happen to a male Forsaken , it just hasn’t yet because when they screwed up, Rand has killed them.

You could argue that SH is the DO himself, in which case he isn’t likely to have a sexual preference, so he should rape male Forsaken for misbehaving, but as I said, there is nothing to say that it won’t happen.
This message last edited by Night Walker on 26/08/2011 at 03:01:57 PM
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No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT - 26/08/2011 02:12:46 PM 2473 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT - 26/08/2011 02:57:25 PM 1485 Views
Yes, I hate rape and I hate how it was used in this story. - 26/08/2011 03:31:16 PM 2346 Views
Missing the point... - 26/08/2011 06:05:40 PM 1644 Views
No, but maybe you are missing the point of what a good villain can do. - 31/08/2011 05:48:47 PM 1165 Views
I think that is a little unfair - 26/08/2011 09:26:30 PM 1373 Views
Re: I think that is a little unfair - 31/08/2011 06:50:02 PM 1034 Views
The rapists are evil, and are presented as such in the books. Go soak your head. - 26/08/2011 05:57:21 PM 1529 Views
You make the point I keep coming back to. - 26/08/2011 08:54:46 PM 1198 Views
Ah nice, that is a good point that I hadn't thought of - 28/08/2011 04:04:20 AM 1082 Views
I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable. - 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM 1374 Views
I think giving his hero 3 GFs more likely proves that RJ is a misandrist - 26/08/2011 09:14:17 PM 1191 Views
Who said he liked Rand? *NM* - 27/08/2011 05:31:22 PM 509 Views
none taken - 26/08/2011 09:09:51 PM 927 Views
Misogynist? Really. - 26/08/2011 10:38:10 PM 1148 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT - 26/08/2011 10:49:26 PM 3751 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT - 27/08/2011 05:14:06 AM 1372 Views
This thread is funny. *NM* - 30/08/2011 06:29:24 AM 456 Views
I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM* - 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM 578 Views

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