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Re: I had no idea about these legalities. DomA Send a noteboard - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM
I really didn't. I assumed if someone had a copy there was a reason, like they were supposed to share their opinion.


That's precisely the point of ARCs, and nowadays publishers love to use non-traditional medias, like Blogs, fan sites etc. Tons more ARC are distributed around, and leftovers are often given away in contests weeks before the book is released etc.

And if Tor is sending out copies before Oct. 27 after all, there's no harm no foul in publishing reviews - that would be why they send copies to people in the first place. But for TGS, it appears every reviewer who asked have been told "Sorry, no ARC printed for TGS, we can get you a copy for release day".

When reputable people/bloggers with established ties to publishers (incl. a few experienced reviewers like Larry from OF and Ken of nethspace, Pat's Fantasy Blog, Adam from Wertzone etc.) start posting reviews, the odds jo-blo poster on a MB has also gotten a copy somehow will be increased a little, but for now you can count on those reviews being fake or from copies obtained illegally.

Normally, there would be more than Jason having a review up by this point. Back in the day, TL, Wot Encyclopedia, Wotmania, Tarvalon.net would all have non spoiler reviews up by this point, and some online media would publish theirs too. There may well be more reviews down the line for all I know, but it's also well known how much Harriet, Brandon and co. dislike spoilers - an this ought to be respected. Some love to use spoilers and half-spoilers as a mean to generate hype, but it's never been the case with WOT. Back in August Brandon didn't even want to mention in Q&A vague stuff he was aware had been officially released - even which two story lines were the focus of the book. He knew it was around, even told people who wanted to know where to look for the info, but he wouldn't speak of it openly (nor does he do on his blog, where he's extremely careful about the information he shares - no doubt knowing very well it's gonna be everywhere after that, and considered legitimate to spread without warning).

The secrets of the book being spread around would not harm Tor's sales, but they sure would piss off Harriet, Brandon etc. Most fans want to discover those for themselves in the book itself - not by accident coming on a MB, whether the spoilers are real or invented by morons with nothing better to do than pulling starved fans' legs.

We waited five years, what's five more weeks before we can judge TGS for ourselves and with a fresh eye anyway?
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1670 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1014 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 447 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 946 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 452 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 798 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 451 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 498 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 548 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 499 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 511 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 452 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 500 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 812 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 446 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 456 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 923 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 466 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 825 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1113 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 433 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 437 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 445 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 488 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 825 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 495 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 764 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 450 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 451 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 445 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 419 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 854 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 815 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 806 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 475 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 885 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1348 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 852 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 1000 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 938 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 847 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 826 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 985 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1222 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 821 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1002 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 745 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 823 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 718 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 932 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1056 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 851 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 945 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 733 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 822 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 420 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 787 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 748 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 920 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1007 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 805 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1063 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 868 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 815 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 466 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 427 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 433 Views

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