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Re: Several reasons exist Watcher Send a noteboard - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM
Given that the Shadow was winning right up to the Strike it stands to reason that they had at least the same amount of angreal & Sa'angreal as the forces of the light. Otherwise the forces of the light would be on the verge of collapse. We have no way of kwowing how many of them were or who originally owned those found in Rand's time. The fat little man angreal could just as easily have belonged to a darkfriend in the AOL as the light.

We know that its not just a simple matter of making sa'angreal. Callandor has a flaw and RJ said that this was because the forces of the light were pumping out angreal and sa'angreal as fast as they could and the rush resulted in the flaw.

That suggests to me that making an angreal and Sa'angreal is more akin to trying to build an apollo space ship that say a M16. You can mass produce the machine gun relativly easy but rush the ship that will take you to the moon and things can go wrong.

With that in mind the number of angreal & Sa'angreal may have been in the high thousands rather that millions. It does stand to reason though that high profile targets like LTT and the Forsaken would all be armed. I think that Rand/LTT called it a some sort of net in the last book when referring to Cadsuanai's ornaments.

Why would the surviving forsaken not have any on them when freed? The simplest reason is probably that they had to check them at the door. We know that you don't channell near SG without the DO's permission. Secondly if you do before the DO tells you how pissed at you he is there could be unforseen reactions between the OP and the TP. Thirdly we know that the best way to get ahead among the Forsaken is to kill your rivals.

Put those three together and I could easily see a rule that no one is allowed angreal or sa'angreal anywhere near the bore when there are staff meetings being called. Otherwise the meetings could turn into open battles.

So for example Lanfear leaves all her angreal etc at a safe location goes to the meeting and normally will retrieve her gear when she leaves. Instead LTT and the Hundred Companions show up, she ends up sealed in the bore and when she gets out her safe room with all her stuff is buried under the sea.
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How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore? - 07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM 2328 Views
Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM 1364 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM 1222 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 04:29:39 PM 1252 Views
No - 07/05/2011 08:36:49 PM 1012 Views
Re: No - 07/05/2011 09:16:18 PM 988 Views
Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM 1057 Views
Re: Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:24:21 PM 1161 Views
Which would be a shame. - 09/05/2011 08:17:23 PM 1012 Views
There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM 1226 Views
Re: There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:23:14 PM 1044 Views
Yeah, but - 07/05/2011 07:30:45 PM 1020 Views
They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM 1269 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 09:54:11 PM 1128 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM 1033 Views
Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM 1432 Views
Re: Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM 1191 Views
Meet malekithe. - 11/05/2011 08:06:01 PM 1068 Views
Meet Cannoli - 18/05/2011 07:47:46 AM 1376 Views
Re: Meet Cannoli - 19/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1317 Views
Whatever whatever! - 18/05/2011 07:43:31 AM 1169 Views
But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul - 11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM 1070 Views
it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM 1039 Views
Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM 1014 Views
I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part - 12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM 959 Views
yep (on both) *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:37:59 AM 519 Views
I think they were at least in some part - 12/05/2011 04:15:26 PM 902 Views
RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM 1130 Views
Re: I don't think so - 08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM 1186 Views
Good points - 08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM 1016 Views
well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM 1064 Views
Re: well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 10:57:45 AM 1050 Views
I suppose that depends on what you want to get out of a fantasy book. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:28:48 PM 561 Views
Do we really *know* that cuendiar is indestructble? - 10/05/2011 02:46:49 PM 1034 Views
We don't, although simplicity=/=weakness. Another scenario - 10/05/2011 07:08:57 PM 926 Views
Sort of - 11/05/2011 07:49:10 AM 1353 Views
Re: RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 03:14:20 PM 1080 Views
Not plastic, more like electronics. - 11/05/2011 03:26:53 PM 1125 Views
I missed this post, it's very well thought! *NM* - 19/05/2011 11:26:00 AM 586 Views
my personal theory with other thoughts - 09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM 1064 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:10:13 AM 1048 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM 986 Views
Some people would. - 11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM 1001 Views
Re: Some people would. - 11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM 931 Views
It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM 1090 Views
Re: It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 04:03:15 PM 907 Views
and if you had prophesy??? *NM* - 04/06/2011 03:10:40 AM 609 Views
My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers - 11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM 1019 Views
makes sense *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:36:08 AM 546 Views
Er, though - - 16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM 982 Views
Re: Er, though - - 17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM 896 Views
Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM 1106 Views
Re: Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM 946 Views
I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1029 Views
Re: I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM 987 Views
That makes sense - 17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM 1020 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM 919 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM 941 Views
Re: That makes sense - 18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM 981 Views
That scene was weird - 18/05/2011 02:37:44 PM 925 Views
Re: That scene was weird - 19/05/2011 10:41:59 AM 916 Views

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