Some of Egwenes' dealings with Gawyn in TOM made sense in context of how a monarch or ruler dealt with favored subjects in certain historical eras. Many of King Henry VIII's letters and correspondence to Ann Boleyn and later wives, for example, were composed by other people in his employ and not all of these even bore his signature. And monarchs often dispatched a courtier or messenger to order a return to court. So this is one of the few points that rang true with respect to how things have historically been done in monarchic systems.
The three main male protagonists are country bumpkins, so they weren't raised to be able to separate a private missive from matters of import. Elayne understood the difference, for example, between a letter from Morgase that was meant for her to be read as a note from a parent to a beloved child and a letter that was delivered from the Queen of Andor to the Daughter Heir - one is personal, the other is private. After all, Egwene didn't need to explain to Nynaeve what she meant by 'other measures' when they met in T'A'R - she told Nynaeve as a friend that she would like Nynaeve to come willingly, but if she didn't, the next measure would be an official summons which is more serious (this scene mirrored one that occurred earlier between Moiraine and Siuan, in some ways, during "The Great Hunt", but in reverse).
But this relationship is boring and I thought it was carried out in a matter-of-fact way that befitted a Queen Regnant and a Prince Consort, in this case, an Amyrlin and her Warder.
The three main male protagonists are country bumpkins, so they weren't raised to be able to separate a private missive from matters of import. Elayne understood the difference, for example, between a letter from Morgase that was meant for her to be read as a note from a parent to a beloved child and a letter that was delivered from the Queen of Andor to the Daughter Heir - one is personal, the other is private. After all, Egwene didn't need to explain to Nynaeve what she meant by 'other measures' when they met in T'A'R - she told Nynaeve as a friend that she would like Nynaeve to come willingly, but if she didn't, the next measure would be an official summons which is more serious (this scene mirrored one that occurred earlier between Moiraine and Siuan, in some ways, during "The Great Hunt", but in reverse).
But this relationship is boring and I thought it was carried out in a matter-of-fact way that befitted a Queen Regnant and a Prince Consort, in this case, an Amyrlin and her Warder.
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course)
28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM
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There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM*
28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM
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Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying.
28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM
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What is to discuss here? You hate Egwene and will spin anything to put her in a negative light
28/04/2011 12:59:58 PM
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But he's so good at it. all the pieces are in there and close to the right place... like a picasso.
03/05/2011 12:51:54 AM
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I'd say there's no need to take it so seriously when there's so few posts lately. You should see
28/04/2011 05:59:19 PM
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while i agree with you on most of this
28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM
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hmpf, i post a good point and nothing
28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM
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you could say the same about a lot of the relationships in this series
28/04/2011 04:59:19 PM
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I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series
28/04/2011 08:15:52 PM
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Re: I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series
29/04/2011 06:55:14 PM
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In regards to the letters...
28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM
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But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject
28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM
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Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder.
28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM
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The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners.
28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM
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No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants.
28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM
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Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical
28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM
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Here's the thing though...
28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM
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No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it.
29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM
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But...
29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM
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That's not really clear
29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM
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Actually, it is...
30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM
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Re: Actually, it is...
30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM
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Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered?
02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM
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Re: Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical
28/04/2011 11:36:24 PM
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My two cents: yes, a little, maybe, and possibly not.
28/04/2011 06:05:09 PM
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Regarding your reference to another Emond's Fielder: What are you talking about?
28/04/2011 09:06:13 PM
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both together, couldn't separate them in my mind - perrin's evasiveness or nyn's trickiness *NM*
28/04/2011 10:16:57 PM
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It isn't the worst romance in WoT
28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM
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Galad is a great option for a political marriage
28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM
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Yes, but...
28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM
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but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything
28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM
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Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM
28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM
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Except they're both really hot.
28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM
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I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant.
04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM
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Siuan...
04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM
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Re: Siuan screwed up big time.
07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM
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Good points all round (do you switch brains when getting into real world politics? ) & re: the Talk
12/05/2011 02:04:06 PM
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Thanks, (and no, you just become less and less astute as we move farther from fiction. )
15/05/2011 11:46:41 PM
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