We know these 13 Aes Sedai with the Bordermen have come from different places and became "one group" of 13 by chance.
That's not entirely clear. I imagine Aes Sedai are better at sniffing things out than most, and if they were trying to be manipulative, then of course they would have to pretend to be surprised to find Tenobia as they did. And if they had been sent by Siuan, that's reason enough to avoid Elaida's (Alviarin's) emissary.
I don't think Elaida let Siuan enough time to gather and send that expedition
I disagree simply because of the urgency of the mission.
but I don't see why being part of that expedition is "reason enough" to avoid Tenobia's advisor? The Amyrlin doesn't get to handpick the sisters on such official missions, just their leader. Several would have been Reds, as would be logical. There's no reason to assume any special loyalty to the Rebels or Siuan among those sisters (had they been sent, anyway).
Siuan specifically advised Leane to handpick those sisters, partly because of the orders she gave them, which were illegal. If Elaida had even known about that, she could have used it against Siuan, but it's clear enough that she didn't. And being close enough to Siuan to be hand-picked by her would be reason enough to avoid Elaida's emissary.
Why should there be manipulation of Tenobia involved? When Paitar finally told Coladara the leaders meant to go south in complete secret, seven other sisters happened to be there visiting her (the evidence is that they were nowhere where you'd expect sisters hunting Taim to be around the Tower Coup timeline... they were in or near Arafel...)
By this time it was probably already more or less common knowledge that Taim had declared for Rand. The manipulation of Tenobia was probably more to do with 'oh she's up to something fishy and we should keep an eye on her'.
and they all decided to follow the King (and most likely try to discover his real intent and why he wanted to go "meet Rand".
Agreed on this point.
Paitar kept that bit secret, by all evidence even his Aes Sedai sister Kiruna has never been told of this prophecy either... it's for the ruler alone.).
We don't really have any evidence either way on Kiruna. In retrospect, there has to be a reason why she never volunteered to mediate with them, being sworn to Rand as she is, and surely knowing of the strange march south.
We know there's no "traitor": the expedition did manage to remain secret until it re appeared in Andor, sothose 13 sisters respected secrecy.</quote
Agreed.
I agree it was mostly a red herring. The theory that the Aes Sedai with them were Siuan's was always a part of that assumption, that it was a red herring, as opposed to the suspicion that Alviarin or Mesaana had something to do with them, but just the fact that Alviarin sent Memara spoke against that. Graendal's suspicion of Demandred posing as one of the rulers was always disqualified from our perspective, but there was of course still suspicion of a tie-in.
Agreed.
The whole thing appears to be a giant red herring (a string of red herrings in fact).
I agree it was mostly a red herring. The theory that the Aes Sedai with them were Siuan's was always a part of that assumption, that it was a red herring, as opposed to the suspicion that Alviarin or Mesaana had something to do with them, but just the fact that Alviarin sent Memara spoke against that. Graendal's suspicion of Demandred posing as one of the rulers was always disqualified from our perspective, but there was of course still suspicion of a tie-in.
Terez questions Brandon
- 18/04/2011 09:40:35 PM
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Why the heck did he RAFO the Barthanes question? *NM*
- 18/04/2011 10:12:13 PM
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- 19/04/2011 06:38:59 PM
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As for Sahra...
- 21/04/2011 07:45:38 AM
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I think the 12 Aes Sedai were captured and turned to the Shadow by Taim.
- 19/04/2011 03:38:08 PM
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- 19/04/2011 06:20:28 PM
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Actually....
- 21/04/2011 07:50:37 AM
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Re: Actually....
- 24/04/2011 04:13:59 AM
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THE STRENGTH LIST!
- 19/04/2011 10:23:50 PM
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Would you rather have the next book or this list? 
*NM*
- 20/04/2011 08:36:13 AM
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*NM*
- 20/04/2011 08:36:13 AM
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I read each new book primarily in the hope that it gives me more clues about the list.
- 20/04/2011 08:55:08 AM
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wrong place *NM*