I disagree that the better assumption is that she set complex and renewing wards
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 10/02/2011 06:12:07 PM
while she was in a mad rage ... she was so careless she got physically leaped on and basically killed for lack of being aware of anything but Rand.
I find it a huge leap to assume she took the time to put wards in place since the scene essentially starts with her blowing a wagon up, skinning a darkfriend and then going on a mass murdering spree to get her insane hands on Rand ... she clearly wasn't thinking clearly!
Of course I recognize that my idea is not without it's holes, but it seems reasonable that Lanfear, who knew LTT for hundreds of years would be able to pick up on even a small gesture ... it's like they say in gambling ... everyone has a "tell" ... any visual clue Rand gave that he was beginning a weaving would have been clue enough that she needed to slice a flow and the most likely place for her to slice would be around his body, most if not all weaves generate from around a Channelers physical body so again not hard to figure out where to aim the weave slicer.
As to Verin, it's clear that she picked up on Graendal's Channeling, but we know from a variety of quotes in the series that inverted/reversed weaves cannot be seen or felt by anyone except the person weaving them. Perhaps Graendal threw a Fireball at them or something else that had a more visible effect ... any number of explanations as to why Verin would have been able to tell that she was being Channeled at.
I find it a huge leap to assume she took the time to put wards in place since the scene essentially starts with her blowing a wagon up, skinning a darkfriend and then going on a mass murdering spree to get her insane hands on Rand ... she clearly wasn't thinking clearly!
Of course I recognize that my idea is not without it's holes, but it seems reasonable that Lanfear, who knew LTT for hundreds of years would be able to pick up on even a small gesture ... it's like they say in gambling ... everyone has a "tell" ... any visual clue Rand gave that he was beginning a weaving would have been clue enough that she needed to slice a flow and the most likely place for her to slice would be around his body, most if not all weaves generate from around a Channelers physical body so again not hard to figure out where to aim the weave slicer.
As to Verin, it's clear that she picked up on Graendal's Channeling, but we know from a variety of quotes in the series that inverted/reversed weaves cannot be seen or felt by anyone except the person weaving them. Perhaps Graendal threw a Fireball at them or something else that had a more visible effect ... any number of explanations as to why Verin would have been able to tell that she was being Channeled at.
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Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
04/02/2011 01:05:56 AM
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I thought of another...
04/02/2011 01:10:23 AM
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The blue sparks are not necessarily the result of a power-wrought blade.
04/02/2011 01:59:46 AM
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I thought that RJ had confirmed at some point that Thom had power wrought knives. *NM*
04/02/2011 02:06:14 PM
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he may have, but it has also been implied that the blue light was because of something special/uniqu
04/02/2011 09:18:02 PM
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Re: Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
04/02/2011 01:52:55 AM
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Re: Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
06/02/2011 08:15:43 PM
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You're misapplying practices.
07/02/2011 01:08:22 PM
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Still disagree...
08/02/2011 06:11:38 AM
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Re: Still disagree...
08/02/2011 11:58:19 AM
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Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
09/02/2011 05:45:13 AM
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Have YOU?
15/02/2011 12:47:39 AM
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She doesn't have to overhear them to know that something is fishy
21/02/2011 10:35:41 AM
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Some ideas
04/02/2011 08:26:09 AM
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No, I think RJ just didn't think it through, seeing as Rand sliced Lanfear's invisible weaves too...
04/02/2011 11:42:38 AM
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it's different
04/02/2011 02:21:44 PM
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So what stopped Lanfear from flicking him against the skull with a surprise club of Air...
04/02/2011 02:33:53 PM
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Gestures and Weaves go hand in hand and since flows originate from the body you can logically
05/02/2011 05:45:00 PM
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In general, only third age Aes Sedai gesture when they weave - it's a block imposed by training.
07/02/2011 06:20:33 PM
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Not true
08/02/2011 01:54:17 PM
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Your example proved my point - LTT only said that it was needed for certain weaves.
08/02/2011 04:20:28 PM
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Hmm...
08/02/2011 05:38:13 PM
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It's a flawed and incorrect given all the examples we've seen in the books.
08/02/2011 08:36:32 PM
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Verin could not see the weaves
08/02/2011 10:16:56 PM
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Also...
08/02/2011 11:35:20 PM
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Well, that's partially the point I'm bringing up.
09/02/2011 03:19:07 PM
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I disagree that the better assumption is that she set complex and renewing wards
10/02/2011 06:12:07 PM
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I never said she could - I said she sensed them, and felt the woman's channeling.
09/02/2011 03:04:00 PM
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I think she had a ward to detect saidin, and when it was triggered, she guessed it would be Air
04/02/2011 04:40:46 PM
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