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A good example Kieran Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM
Rand and the people need to succeed together.

Look at Aridhol. They beat the DO, only to doom themselves to another evil.
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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM 1760 Views
Yeah, that seems logical, funny to see rand bite himself in the ass :p *NM* Kieran - 08/02/2011 06:31:44 AM 510 Views
I want to reply and say that's not exactly how I picture it, but I don't want to be dirty. *NM* Deadsy - 08/02/2011 06:50:17 AM 546 Views
there once was a man from nantucket? *NM* nigelgoboom - 08/02/2011 07:18:47 AM 468 Views
Bwah ha ha! Dirty minds think alike! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 08/02/2011 03:41:30 PM 448 Views
That actually seems cosmically plausible - but I really hope this is not the case RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 03:27:29 PM 1117 Views
But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... Shannow - 08/02/2011 03:58:24 PM 983 Views
This. There's a reason one of his archetypes is the Fisher King. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 07:00:05 PM 510 Views
The issue is that the Fisher King story is about the Land, not the People RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 08:02:24 PM 901 Views
A good example Kieran - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM 920 Views
None of this is contradicted by what I have posited entyti - 08/02/2011 09:16:48 PM 839 Views
But the chess analogy is what I'm seeing - the Dragon is necessary in degree not in total. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:42:15 PM 980 Views
Yes, those are the rules in chess... entyti - 10/02/2011 05:34:25 AM 889 Views
The Fisher King is not a messianic myth. Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 10:07:44 PM 959 Views
Fisher King title and legends are connected to the Messianic mythos RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 09:47:14 PM 1144 Views
The disciples, not Jesus, were the "fishers of men." EDITED. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 10:08:24 PM 806 Views
Yeah, you're right about the fish - I was reaching (and typed too fast to think) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 05:30:29 PM 788 Views
Re: But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:47:14 AM 872 Views
You two are like a married couple without the benefit of the makeup sex. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:30:10 AM 1042 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:53:17 AM 405 Views
*NM* Sir Tybalt - 10/02/2011 02:52:28 PM 473 Views
Huh? No. You are so off it's not even funny. Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:16:05 AM 1049 Views
Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 06:17:55 AM 938 Views
Re: Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:20:21 AM 947 Views
Atop Dragonmount, for one... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:36:56 AM 959 Views
I'm exhausted, so I may be misremembering. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:27:18 AM 923 Views
That was Tam. Gher - 09/02/2011 05:09:45 PM 971 Views
That is a key difference. Japhy - 09/02/2011 06:38:24 PM 803 Views
Re: Atop Dragonmount, for one... Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:12:02 PM 938 Views
Not at all! fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:58:39 AM 845 Views
You sound like Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:38:52 PM 919 Views
Re: You sound like Ishamael Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:17:58 PM 904 Views
I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 03:54:04 PM 993 Views
Re: I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:10:01 PM 990 Views
Seems to me that you're confused. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 08:27:06 PM 749 Views
Seems to me that YOU'RE confused. Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:09:41 AM 928 Views
You might actually want to read what people wrote. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 03:13:52 PM 822 Views
The amount of elitism on this board would be depressing if it weren't so damned funny. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:18:13 PM 867 Views
What depresses me... entyti - 09/02/2011 11:23:13 PM 772 Views
I, personally, like it. It makes sense for the Dragon to be an incarnation of the Serpent. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:39:28 PM 923 Views
I didn't mean to hijack it - other replies did RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 02:51:35 PM 880 Views
It is of little consequence entyti - 10/02/2011 05:36:40 PM 846 Views
Relax homeboy. It was a joke. *NM* Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:07:55 AM 482 Views
I guess the DO just has "Serpent Envy?" *NM* newyorkersedai - 12/02/2011 01:13:40 PM 390 Views
*NM* entyti - 12/02/2011 02:47:09 PM 435 Views
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