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Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM
not to mention a few flaws in your thinking ...

1. Nynaeve put a shield on Logain that she admitted to herself wasn't going to hold if he even tried to break it ... the scene makes it clear that Logain could have quite easily have broken Nynaeve's shield if he had made the effort.

2. Odds are the weakest sisters in the camp were relegated to holding Logain's shield ... things like this are always relegated to the weakest (as Cadsuane notes when they are holding Semirhage). The women holding that shield were likely even weaker than Siuan's new strength so your assumption that 5-6 women of 2x Daigian level is what would be required to hold Logain doesn't really hold water. Odds are Logain could be held by the equivalent of 7x Daigian strength ... I believe Nynaeve to be about 6x Daigian(or about 2x Moiraine), which is why he could have broken her shield but not a shield held by 5-6 weak AS. Egwene is about 2x Sheriam (from the Amys + Melaine quote) which makes her approximately 5x Daigian.
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Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM 2142 Views
It's a nice idea, really newyorkersedai - 22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM 1196 Views
we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM 1129 Views
Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane... Shannow - 24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM 1234 Views
Still sticking to the nonsense I see... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2011 12:14:12 AM 1032 Views
you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM 1055 Views
Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear... fionwe1987 - 26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM 1087 Views
*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously? darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM 1053 Views
tGH, but I agree... fionwe1987 - 27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM 1141 Views
Re: tGH, but I agree... Sidious - 27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM 984 Views
I think it's a matter of perspective too darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM 914 Views
Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot... Shannow - 27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM 845 Views
Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM 955 Views
Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it... Shannow - 27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM 1168 Views
I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM 985 Views
Circular logic... Shannow - 27/01/2011 09:49:40 PM 1051 Views
Explain to me how Moghedien is only 60% of Lanfear and managed to do anything? darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 06:25:28 PM 1086 Views
Easy. And I dispute that all 6 women shielding Logain were only 10% stronger than an Accepted. Shannow - 29/01/2011 12:42:54 PM 829 Views
Not even gonna bother ... So many flawed statements in here it's not worth the effort to correct you *NM* darius_sedai - 29/01/2011 04:50:01 PM 476 Views
Wait... what? fionwe1987 - 27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM 910 Views
Re: Wait... what? Zeratul - 28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM 854 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM 945 Views
Yeah, but... Zeratul - 28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM 993 Views
Therer is a direct quote in New Spring darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM 968 Views
Yup... *NM* fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 02:42:15 PM 507 Views
Thanks Zeratul - 28/01/2011 04:05:47 PM 1020 Views
Not really the case though darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 04:54:28 PM 809 Views
That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve? Shannow - 28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM 928 Views
So Elayne is Cadsunae in you stupid play? fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 02:44:07 PM 878 Views
Getting hot under the collar and irrational again, I see... Shannow - 28/01/2011 03:01:14 PM 839 Views
right tGH but still! *NM* darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 04:02:57 PM 451 Views
It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series... Shannow - 22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM 1135 Views
it's obviously a stretch, just a random thought darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 08:26:49 PM 1138 Views
Strength in the Power and skill in the Power are not the same thing. Ghavrel - 22/01/2011 10:33:12 PM 965 Views
true, but nearly 300 years ago when she was a new AS she had yet to learn that lesson darius_sedai - 23/01/2011 04:49:33 PM 950 Views
Possibly? But unlikely. redqueen - 23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM 914 Views
The 6 are... Shannow - 24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM 1237 Views
I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level darius_sedai - 24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM 1003 Views
Agree and disagree... Shannow - 25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM 965 Views
Re: Agree and disagree... Sidious - 25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM 890 Views
I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility. Shannow - 26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM 1009 Views
I'd disagree with that statement. I think he definitively ruled her out with his comment darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:40:14 PM 810 Views
Not really Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:15:59 PM 888 Views
Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM* Vidarfe - 25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM 457 Views
I think Shannows' point is that even with reduced strength, Lanfear is still the most powerful RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:30:34 PM 961 Views
Re: The 6 are... Sidious - 25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM 1030 Views
This seems like the most likely case to me, but Sommeryn is unsubstantiated to date darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:43:27 PM 833 Views
I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM 988 Views
I agree that she is the most likely candidate, but there is nothing beyond speculation darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 09:45:27 PM 858 Views
Talaan isn't stronger. She is the same strength and has been actively channeling for 6 years darius_sedai - 24/01/2011 11:14:31 PM 965 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/01/2011 03:56:00 PM 905 Views
Possible... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2011 12:17:42 AM 881 Views
none whatsoever ... purely speculating here *NM* darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:44:15 PM 389 Views
Not necessarily sleepinghour - 25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM 831 Views
But that doesn't answer why a toothless wilder in a backwoods hut would have drawn darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:49:33 PM 916 Views
nah Sidious - 25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM 1122 Views
it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM 1061 Views
Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM 938 Views
I can see that as a possibility too darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM 947 Views
Re: I can see that as a possibility too Sidious - 27/01/2011 07:38:31 AM 1039 Views
we'll always disagree I suppose darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 04:47:42 PM 981 Views
Strongest since the breaking? I disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 19/08/2011 01:09:37 PM 1150 Views
I doubt it. Gher - 26/01/2011 03:53:33 AM 957 Views
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? ljgibbs - 26/01/2011 09:31:36 AM 1033 Views
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