I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women
Sidious Send a noteboard - 26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM
it could as easily be Sera or some other individual we've not yet met.
I don't think that any of the super-strong women are obscure, so I don't think a woman like Norla or Sera are possibilities. If RJ did make them so strong he would have inserted something about their power into the story, much like he did with Someryn.
Someryn has two quotes that suggest that she may be this woman. She has never met a woman who is remotely close to her in strength (which is striking considering we know of women such as Aviendha, Tamela and Viendre who walk among the Aiel, and surely are not excluded from the likes of the Shaido) and is very irritated that Graendal is stronger, and Graendal herself considers her to be 'not negligible', which is a high compliment indeed from a Forsaken if you see how Moghedien appraised Nynaeve's ability, and even how they rate Rand's own power. I think Graendal is only threatened by a skilled and powerful channeler, and she measured her own ability in Someryn, and thus refused to teach her Compulsion if Sammael demanded it.
Anyway, I'm not going to defend the point vigorously. The other five women have strengths that are all but confirmed to be greater than Nynaeve's, and Someryn can be added as the sixth with two quotes that make her a forerunner for this position long before any other channeler can be placed there. Whether people believe that her quotes hint at them is a matter for personal choice until Brandon confirms it.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 26/01/2011 at 05:10:38 PM
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve?
22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM
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It's a nice idea, really
22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM
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we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve
22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM
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Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane...
24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM
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you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane
26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM
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Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear...
26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM
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*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously?
26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM
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tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM
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Re: tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM
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I think it's a matter of perspective too
27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM
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Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot...
27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM
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Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT
27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM
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Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it...
27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM
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I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain
27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM
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Circular logic...
27/01/2011 09:49:40 PM
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Explain to me how Moghedien is only 60% of Lanfear and managed to do anything?
28/01/2011 06:25:28 PM
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Easy. And I dispute that all 6 women shielding Logain were only 10% stronger than an Accepted.
29/01/2011 12:42:54 PM
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Not even gonna bother ... So many flawed statements in here it's not worth the effort to correct you *NM*
29/01/2011 04:50:01 PM
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Wait... what?
27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM
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Re: Wait... what?
28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM
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Nope...
28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM
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Yeah, but...
28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM
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Therer is a direct quote in New Spring
28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM
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That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve?
28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM
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It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series...
22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM
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Strength in the Power and skill in the Power are not the same thing.
22/01/2011 10:33:12 PM
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true, but nearly 300 years ago when she was a new AS she had yet to learn that lesson
23/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
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Possibly? But unlikely.
23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM
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The 6 are...
24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM
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I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level
24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM
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Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM
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Re: Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM
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I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility.
26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM
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I'd disagree with that statement. I think he definitively ruled her out with his comment
26/01/2011 04:40:14 PM
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Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM*
25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM
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I think Shannows' point is that even with reduced strength, Lanfear is still the most powerful
25/01/2011 05:30:34 PM
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Re: The 6 are...
25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM
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This seems like the most likely case to me, but Sommeryn is unsubstantiated to date
26/01/2011 04:43:27 PM
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I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women
26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM
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I agree that she is the most likely candidate, but there is nothing beyond speculation
26/01/2011 09:45:27 PM
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Talaan isn't stronger. She is the same strength and has been actively channeling for 6 years
24/01/2011 11:14:31 PM
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Not necessarily
25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM
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But that doesn't answer why a toothless wilder in a backwoods hut would have drawn
26/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
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nah
25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM
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it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM
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Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM
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I can see that as a possibility too
26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM
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