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Seanchan is much closer to the Chinese culture. Which has never established democracy darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 01/01/2011 06:12:10 AM
And both Tarabon and Arad Domon had elected rulers. Tear had a group of rulers, even if they are selfish bastards, and Illian has the Counsel to offset the power of the Crown. No monarch in the Western Kingdoms has anywhere near the level of authority of the Empress. If you look at the Westlands many are on the verge of establishing Democratic rule.

None of the Westland countries is anywhere near to democratic rule. Actually if we try to make a parallel with real history, an absolute monarchy (like the Seanchan) has proven to be much closer to becoming a democracy later on than a feudal type of government with weak central authority (the other Randland countries). England, France, Prussia, etc, first established a strong central authority before transforming into democracies.



The western nations you mention are far closer to what we see in Andor (England), Cairhein (France) etc... Which have developed democratic societies since the industrial revolution
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Avienda's viewing and the Fields of Merrilor (spoilers) saidarisnowtainted - 28/12/2010 06:21:05 PM 3374 Views
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Indeed...the bleak future makes the Last Battle almost an anti-climax... Shannow - 28/12/2010 08:20:31 PM 2081 Views
And yet, the only places of relative peace and shelter right now are Seanchan controlled lands. everynametaken - 29/12/2010 03:21:37 AM 1643 Views
+1. Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 04:04:02 AM 1446 Views
Re: +1. Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:25:23 PM 1312 Views
Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. Shannow - 29/12/2010 10:27:35 AM 1429 Views
Says the person defending monarchies and oligarchies, some of them quite brutal. moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 02:12:56 PM 1405 Views
LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? Shannow - 29/12/2010 10:00:11 PM 1606 Views
Re: LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 10:44:12 PM 1412 Views
Why do you have this urge to overcomplicate something as simple as personal likes and dislikes? Shannow - 30/12/2010 10:00:43 AM 1351 Views
Re: Why do you have this urge to overcomplicate something as simple as personal likes and dislikes? Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:28:03 PM 1299 Views
"romantic characteristics" Variant - 07/01/2011 06:06:31 AM 1267 Views
Re: "romantic characteristics" Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:30:33 PM 1302 Views
Don't blame the Seanchan, The Aiel made an excuse to start a war. Variant - 08/01/2011 09:20:36 AM 1735 Views
Re: Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. Zeratul - 29/12/2010 03:06:16 PM 1524 Views
Exactly. *NM* everynametaken - 30/12/2010 02:50:07 AM 892 Views
They are pretty close to evil. Slavery being the big thing, but the crushing social scale is far darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:45:59 PM 1252 Views
The Aiel sold slaves to Shara, does that make them evil? No society in Randland is without flaws. Variant - 07/01/2011 05:10:32 AM 1536 Views
you are missing my point darius_sedai - 07/01/2011 11:31:11 PM 1403 Views
We haven't had a POV from a NON-high-ranking Seanchan moratcorlm - 08/01/2011 03:13:26 AM 24903 Views
As to Bethamin ... darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:46:36 PM 1370 Views
No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. Variant - 08/01/2011 09:48:51 AM 1292 Views
Re: No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. Lo'oris - 08/01/2011 10:04:18 AM 1339 Views
Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either Lohikaarme - 08/01/2011 11:00:31 AM 1317 Views
Re: Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either Lo'oris - 09/01/2011 02:08:17 AM 1300 Views
That's funny, I'd choose modern day China in a second. Variant - 09/01/2011 06:37:24 AM 1282 Views
Hong Kong is not an accurate representation of the rest of Modern China darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:50:20 PM 1267 Views
~sigh~ Cosmopolitan China is different than Rural China Variant - 21/01/2011 01:00:17 AM 1231 Views
well there is also the fact that Hong Kong has different "rules" than even other major darius_sedai - 21/01/2011 05:38:46 PM 1328 Views
I'm not just talking about Hong Kong though... Variant - 22/01/2011 09:36:20 AM 1334 Views
I've traveled extensively darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:02:47 PM 1277 Views
You've traveled to China extensively? Variant - 22/01/2011 07:41:30 PM 1340 Views
the quesetion you responded too is "would you rather live in Medieval Europe of Modern China darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 09:47:24 PM 1530 Views
I responded, "I"d choose modern day china in a second" Variant - 22/01/2011 10:29:46 PM 1366 Views
Actually, China is changing. Variant - 09/01/2011 06:32:58 AM 1314 Views
true to a point, yet China has been under one form or another of totalitarian rule for darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:57:37 PM 1292 Views
So? Variant - 21/01/2011 01:20:18 AM 1396 Views
Double post *NM* Variant - 21/01/2011 01:21:10 AM 710 Views
It's the comparative to the Seanchan empire I'm really getting at here, not saying China isn't darius_sedai - 21/01/2011 05:43:56 PM 1378 Views
I don't even know why China was brought up in the first place ~shrugs~ Variant - 22/01/2011 10:04:59 AM 1227 Views
I totally agree with your last point, which is why I think RJ set them up to be the "Evil Empire" darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:12:46 PM 1306 Views
They're not entirely evil though, and RJ has written them that way Variant - 22/01/2011 08:02:22 PM 1277 Views
not so much darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 09:54:38 PM 1263 Views
Your example is absurd. Variant - 22/01/2011 10:53:06 PM 1197 Views
Ah yes, the "Jews can kill you with their minds" argument. *NM* moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 05:32:23 PM 711 Views
Please. Like anyone else in Randland is really free? everynametaken - 30/12/2010 02:47:27 AM 1290 Views
Andor is rather progressive... Allowing the common people to speak their minds darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:35:29 PM 1238 Views
Andor is lionized as a huge exception to the general rule moratcorlm - 31/12/2010 11:57:30 PM 1340 Views
Re: Andor is rather progressive... Allowing the common people to speak their minds Zeratul - 01/01/2011 12:18:46 AM 1359 Views
Seanchan is much closer to the Chinese culture. Which has never established democracy darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 06:12:10 AM 1695 Views
Prussia (and with it Germany) would never have changed to democracy if not forced to Voscaia Sedai - 01/01/2011 12:23:34 PM 1209 Views
too easy: they did not have to fight the Shadow, they don't even know shadowspawn really exist as of *NM* Lo'oris - 29/12/2010 02:44:18 PM 756 Views
It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:00:57 PM 1232 Views
Re: It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population moratcorlm - 01/01/2011 10:58:22 PM 1358 Views
Word, even the Tinkers are gathering and migrating to Seanchan held lands in the south. *NM* Variant - 07/01/2011 05:21:09 AM 672 Views
Maybe they're a remnant of humanity Sidious - 29/12/2010 04:41:40 AM 1445 Views
Re: Maybe they're a remnant of humanity moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 02:17:33 PM 1392 Views
Couple of flaws here darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:54:13 PM 1267 Views
You are right, here is a better analogy dadof5 - 03/01/2011 06:23:16 PM 1274 Views
Even Hitler didn't think Jews could kill people with their minds moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 07:22:09 PM 1334 Views
It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Skeeve the Great - 28/12/2010 08:27:59 PM 1363 Views
No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... Shannow - 28/12/2010 08:31:27 PM 1450 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... Skeeve the Great - 28/12/2010 08:50:28 PM 1334 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 03:56:55 PM 1374 Views
Because the Aiel are savages who have no place in a modern world moratcorlm - 28/12/2010 11:15:23 PM 1439 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 04:01:00 PM 1388 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Ashaman_Luc - 28/12/2010 11:02:34 PM 1318 Views
VoG = Veins of Gold. The chapter at the end of TGS where Rand becomes balanced. *NM* Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 06:56:38 AM 2147 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Sidious - 29/12/2010 04:37:04 AM 1321 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Skeeve the Great - 29/12/2010 02:37:12 PM 1322 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 04:02:31 PM 1574 Views
timeline in the books Ava - 29/12/2010 03:34:45 PM 1387 Views
Re: timeline in the books moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 05:29:11 PM 1399 Views
Re: timeline in the books Ava - 31/12/2010 01:18:32 PM 1290 Views
yes thousands and thousands AFTER hundreds of years. these kids were probably slowing since birth. Onarishma - 03/01/2011 08:19:22 PM 1374 Views
Re: yes thousands and thousands AFTER hundreds of years. Ava - 04/01/2011 12:21:59 PM 1200 Views
your premise is that first generation applies to anyone but them. Onarishma - 10/01/2011 09:25:02 PM 1239 Views
Aviendha + Mat (and Seta and Bethamin) are the best hopes. The Angry Druid - 09/01/2011 01:45:00 AM 1353 Views
From a plot standpoint I very much dislike Avienda's visions as well The Count - 20/01/2011 01:39:37 AM 1772 Views
Problem is, the fate of post-TG Randland depends on the viewing being heeded before TG. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2011 10:07:15 AM 648 Views
The Light's victory in the Last Battle was already a foregone conclusion ranagrande - 21/01/2011 03:48:54 PM 1208 Views
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