I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
Joel Send a noteboard - 29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
At this stage, Egwene has (for better or worse) been written as a fairly detestable personality, despite having done some good for the Tower. If she is right, then I will give RJ the benefit of the doubt and take this as a statement that in life, sometimes complete shmucks are lucky enough to do things correctly.
The only thing I disagree about is Egwene losing power to Logain - I think it would be far more satisfying to see Logain set up as her equal, then see her learn some simple humility and realize that she isn't the Creator's gift to the world.
The only thing I disagree about is Egwene losing power to Logain - I think it would be far more satisfying to see Logain set up as her equal, then see her learn some simple humility and realize that she isn't the Creator's gift to the world.
Whether it was that way originally or simply the result of events Latra seems to have led the women and LTT the men at the end of the War of Power. I've personally always thought that was a schism after she refused to participate in the plan to forge the seals, in preference for her own doomed plan to use the Choedan Kal (though it's never quite clear how they were to be used, even had the areas where the access keys were created not fallen to the Shadow). In other words, I think LTT initially held overall leadership of all channelers and Latra only rose to lead the women when so many rejected LTTs plan to end the war. If that was the case, while there may be a male and female leader similar to what the Ajah Heads and Sitters provide, I only anticipate one supreme leader in a TRULY reunited Tower.
However, there's no way to be certain, and even if I'm right about the history there's no guarantee the future will unfold identically (though I think it would function a lot more smoothly; there's enough intrigue and conspiracy in the Tower without granting the highest authority to TWO people rather than one and then restricting that authority to the respective genders of each). In that case having to deal with Logain as an equal would undoubtedly be a humbling and, one would hope, edifying experience for Egwene. If nothing else though, I think it's unlikely as long as she insists on Aes Sedai swearing the Oaths; Logain and the other Asha'man don't strike me as the type to potentially give up half their lives just to satisfy the pointless custom of women who tried to hunt them down and kill them. Of course, if Aran'gar does have some lingering influence over her perhaps that rare example of Egwene reversing herself in a big way wasn't really her decision in the first place.
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The significance of 23 stars (TOM Spoilers)
14/12/2010 11:48:55 PM
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It would be a first...
15/12/2010 02:46:33 AM
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Re: It would be a first...
15/12/2010 04:39:17 AM
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit.
15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM
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She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind.
19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM
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20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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Re:
20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book.
29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM
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+1
29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM
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I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
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Re: It would be a first...
15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there
19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM
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One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken
15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM
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Err, it's the other way around
15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM
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I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective...
15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM
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Don't you know it's all about the posturing
15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM
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agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive
15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM
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It's more that you take it out of context
15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM
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The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore...
15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM
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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role
15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that
18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM
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Yes
18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM
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Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM*
18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM
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Re: It would be a first...
18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM
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wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars
15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM
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I wish
16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM
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That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM
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Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read.
20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM
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Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM
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Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM
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Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM
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It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101).
29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM
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Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself.
29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM
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More likely to be Flinn.
29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM
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Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques.
30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM
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Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan
30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM
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Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny.
29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM
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