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I wonder if Sanderson's division of this story into two books affected this plot guttering flame Send a noteboard - 24/12/2010 09:03:31 PM
"He has to be there, or else something bad will happen" clearly implies that Perrin's presence must be required. Rand was not at all affected by Perrin on Dragonmount. To begin with, Perrin was in T'A'R while Rand was in the real world, so that's a huge barrier.

If Perrin had actually touched Rand, or had reached out to him mentally, that would be one thing, but it seems clear that he was there as an observer so we could see something amazing happen (and so that Perrin would know to trust Rand).


He WAS there. So the viewing came true.



If Perrin affected Rand's subconscious from TAR, Rand's epiphany would've been trivialized but the way Sanderson wrote it Perrin role was pretty superfluous to the both their stories.

I think Jordan originally meant for both their scene to occur together and for Perrin to participate in Rand's debate with himself. He would probably have been the Pattern's advocate showing the good things in life within the Pattern.

But with the tangled timelines in tGS and ToM that was discarded.

Though the presence of channeling women was still missing from the scene unless you count Cadsuane and her allies.
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