Re: I think it's Naeff in that scene that directly says he's never seen so many weaves at once
Onarishma Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 08:44:08 PM
So what's the deal with Rand's new superhuman One Power strength?
Without going into too much detail, can we put a rough approximation to it?
We know he is much more powerful than he was before. One theory was that he now had access to both his and Lews Therin's strength, thereby doubling his strength. That would make him twice as powerful as the strongest male Forsaken.
However, Sanderson gave us a hint of his new power when Egwene stated that she doubted the entire White Tower could have held Rand had he chosen to break free from them.
If this estimate (based on nothing more than a hunch) is even remotely accurate, then he must have the strength of as many as 100 men or more.
But it seems this new strength is accessed somewhat differently from his normal power. It operates a bit like a well, since Rand indicated that his annihilation of the Trollocs at Maradon left him drained for a long time thereafter. It seems that he has to use his new strength selectively, and that it takes time for his new "well" of strength to gradually fill up again.
Anyway, I was wondering why he would need Callandor, if his unaided strength is already about 100 times the strength of the strongest man.
Back in PoD Rand indicated that Callandor gave him approximately the strength of 100 men. It would appear that his new unaided strength is roughly in the same bracket.
Without going into too much detail, can we put a rough approximation to it?
We know he is much more powerful than he was before. One theory was that he now had access to both his and Lews Therin's strength, thereby doubling his strength. That would make him twice as powerful as the strongest male Forsaken.
However, Sanderson gave us a hint of his new power when Egwene stated that she doubted the entire White Tower could have held Rand had he chosen to break free from them.
If this estimate (based on nothing more than a hunch) is even remotely accurate, then he must have the strength of as many as 100 men or more.
But it seems this new strength is accessed somewhat differently from his normal power. It operates a bit like a well, since Rand indicated that his annihilation of the Trollocs at Maradon left him drained for a long time thereafter. It seems that he has to use his new strength selectively, and that it takes time for his new "well" of strength to gradually fill up again.
Anyway, I was wondering why he would need Callandor, if his unaided strength is already about 100 times the strength of the strongest man.
Back in PoD Rand indicated that Callandor gave him approximately the strength of 100 men. It would appear that his new unaided strength is roughly in the same bracket.
and any addtional effects are almost all taveren affects not directly channeling effectiveness.
which means either Rand is channeling at a level far above what others are capable of, or the ta'veren affect is multiplying what he's doing ... personally I think the former. The ta'veren affect is seem more in how people are reacting to him... as seen in Arad Doman.
And how often has he seen anyone that strength in that kind of situation?
Rand's new strength level - Approximately the power of two men, 10 men or 100 men?
- 20/12/2010 06:58:18 PM
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it's an interesting question. I think he's more like a person drawing on the TP
- 20/12/2010 07:05:43 PM
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Good point. But I disagree that Rand or Moridin could draw limitless volumes of the True Power
- 20/12/2010 07:20:25 PM
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I'm not so sure about that, we don't actually know that much about the TP
- 20/12/2010 07:51:26 PM
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I've yet to be convinced that Rand's raw strength has increased.
- 20/12/2010 07:14:43 PM
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Then he would be no different to Demandred or another powerful Forsaken...
- 20/12/2010 07:18:44 PM
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Re: Then he would be no different to Demandred or another powerful Forsaken...
- 20/12/2010 08:41:11 PM
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His power is clearly increased
- 20/12/2010 07:59:02 PM
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I think what was demonstrated in TOM was clearly 250 times in strength from KOD or more.....
- 21/12/2010 12:11:54 AM
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Re: His power is clearly increased
- 21/12/2010 02:57:17 PM
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Re: His power is clearly increased
- 21/12/2010 03:39:54 PM
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Hampered and fought the entire way by Rand, so, no, that won't be necessary. *NM*
- 21/12/2010 05:00:06 PM
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Hey Shannow, what does your theory say about Rand's One Power level?
- 20/12/2010 08:03:12 PM
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I don't think he strength has significantly increased.... but he has fully accepted his LTT memories
- 20/12/2010 08:09:12 PM
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I think it's Naeff in that scene that directly says he's never seen so many weaves at once
- 20/12/2010 08:24:54 PM
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Re: I think it's Naeff in that scene that directly says he's never seen so many weaves at once
- 20/12/2010 08:44:08 PM
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Re: I think it's Naeff in that scene that directly says he's never seen so many weaves at once
- 20/12/2010 10:23:15 PM
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Re: I think it's Naeff in that scene that directly says he's never seen so many weaves at once
- 21/12/2010 02:59:43 PM
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well he's been around Rand for a while now ... probably since Logain took the Asha'man to Tear
- 18/01/2011 12:16:01 AM
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I say the strength level - a little bit more than before, just a little.
- 21/12/2010 12:50:08 AM
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His raw strength is the same
- 21/12/2010 07:15:09 AM
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So, can Rand materialize out of light and float now like Ishy in TDR? *NM*
- 21/12/2010 11:39:29 PM
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I've read it as two things have happened to him.
- 22/12/2010 02:14:26 AM
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