Active Users:402 Time:04/04/2025 05:12:23 AM
Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? _Big_Easy_ Send a noteboard - 17/12/2010 03:30:25 AM
So the 2nd Dreamspike is in use at the Black Tower, yes?

That seems to be the consensus, since Rand can't travel there, nor can Grady,
and the Aes Sedai there seem unable to make Gateways as well.

However, when Androl is making a new bracer for Jonneth, he makes a small gateway to cut the leather.
Inside the Black Tower's grounds.

Although we don't have a ton of information, we do see from a Forsaken's PoV that the Dreamspike blocks all Gateways except those that are "allowed",
presumably by a person controlling the Dreamspike with tied-off weaves woven in T'A'R or something along those lines.

It seems implausible that it would block Gateways only of a certain size, since one could still attack or kill through a tiny gateway,
with a small stream of balefire or fireball or something.

It also seems implausible that anywhere in the grounds of the Black Tower would be outside the range of the Dreamspike,
since when we see Perrin and the wolves inside the Dreamspike, it covers a large area.

What do you guys think? An error by BS, or is Androl's talent for Gateways strong enough that weak though he is, he can break through a Dreamspike?

My vote is for error by Sanderson.
Reply to message
Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 03:30:25 AM 2064 Views
Well, later Androl couldn't make one either later on - 17/12/2010 03:40:43 AM 1094 Views
Agreed. That was my thought when I was reading too. *NM* - 17/12/2010 03:52:28 AM 431 Views
yah, I think it could just be a matter of timing. *NM* - 17/12/2010 04:29:26 AM 374 Views
No error. - 17/12/2010 04:38:22 AM 1111 Views
Combined with the weather conditions and Logain reference - 17/12/2010 04:50:12 AM 976 Views
Re: Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 05:01:46 AM 915 Views
Work? It seemed obvious the dreamspike wasn't in place yet when Androl made the mini-gw *NM* - 17/12/2010 05:05:20 AM 414 Views
It's just weird chronology and chapter placement. - 17/12/2010 09:21:01 PM 790 Views
Exactly... - 18/12/2010 12:23:31 AM 1034 Views
Re: Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 03:00:23 PM 843 Views
Correct--no error. You can only make gateways to other locations within the dreamspike radius. - 17/12/2010 03:14:09 PM 756 Views
Incorrect... the effect is different in TAR and in the real world - 17/12/2010 11:23:26 PM 978 Views
One Correction - 20/12/2010 06:38:57 PM 791 Views
Re: One Correction - 21/12/2010 01:42:28 AM 689 Views
I thought the same. *NM* - 17/12/2010 03:28:29 PM 345 Views
I think it blocks all gateways. - 17/12/2010 04:08:59 PM 880 Views
I remember that, too. - 17/12/2010 07:19:56 PM 774 Views
Your logic is undeniable. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:26:30 PM 385 Views

Reply to Message