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I disliked her actions guttering flame Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 03:46:44 PM
And I agree. I think the defining difference between Elayne and Nynaeve is that Nynaeve's infractions come from her sense of morals while Elayne's come from a sense of entitlement and ambition.


If she has a sense of entitlement, it's because she is entitled as first Daughter-Heir, and now Queen. Her actions in TOM (specifically, the deal with the Kin) were for the betterment of her realm and her people. That's not to say she isn't overstepping her bounds as AS in her position as Queen, because she is. And it's something that the Tower (either Egwene privately, or the Hall publicly) will have to deal with eventually.


Because they had a selfish streak. She's like a company owner that wants to use scientific inventions to give his company a boost instead of bettering the world in general.
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Elayne kissing Egwene's ring? redqueen - 15/12/2010 09:11:34 PM 1547 Views
Hm. Lord Agalmar was pretty subsevient to the Amyrlin in tGH. beetnemesis - 15/12/2010 09:39:21 PM 1039 Views
Borderlanders have great respect for Aes Sedai redqueen - 15/12/2010 09:50:25 PM 800 Views
The Amyrlin Seat is considered to rank above a monarch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2010 10:09:39 PM 902 Views
This is the expected ritual for the Kings and Queens meeting the Amyrlin Zeratul - 15/12/2010 10:39:45 PM 791 Views
It's a mere mark of respect to the Amyrlin Seat (the position, not the woman) DomA - 16/12/2010 02:01:17 AM 919 Views
Interesting points guttering flame - 16/12/2010 10:41:52 AM 780 Views
Re: Interesting points Macharius - 16/12/2010 01:57:56 PM 740 Views
I disliked her actions guttering flame - 16/12/2010 03:46:44 PM 696 Views
It's not like the Kin weren't getting anything out of the deal, so what's the problem? Macharius - 16/12/2010 04:33:16 PM 696 Views
BTW by "High Queen" I meant that other rulers showed her respect, not that she ruled them. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2010 04:42:40 PM 697 Views
This deserves its own thread.. RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 08:51:05 PM 832 Views
Re: This deserves its own thread.. DomA - 17/12/2010 02:30:21 PM 902 Views
Re: This deserves its own thread.. Zeratul - 17/12/2010 04:46:28 PM 698 Views
Nice catch!! RabidWombat - 17/12/2010 07:09:43 PM 735 Views
Yep, unsustainable conflict of interest here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:44:38 AM 725 Views
I think we largely agree, but... RabidWombat - 17/12/2010 06:59:46 PM 722 Views
Re: It's a mere mark of respect to the Amyrlin Seat (the position, not the woman) fairfax - 16/12/2010 11:36:22 PM 786 Views
question for you, cause you are kind of missing the point of what Elayne is doing darius_sedai - 20/12/2010 09:07:17 PM 687 Views
Re: question for you, cause you are kind of missing the point of what Elayne is doing fairfax - 22/12/2010 09:55:01 PM 913 Views
excellent observations ... makes me think the real reason it's been so hard for a Monarch darius_sedai - 20/12/2010 08:42:34 PM 680 Views
Elaida / Siuan versus Morgase springs to mind ajfurst - 16/12/2010 07:00:21 AM 909 Views
Re: Elaida / Siuan versus Morgase springs to mind Watcher - 16/12/2010 07:56:41 PM 801 Views
yes, because that question is totally a yes/no question LadyLorraine - 16/12/2010 11:49:34 PM 738 Views
What's simplicity got to do with it? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 01:19:12 AM 668 Views
You can rephrase as 'What's more important to you, being Aes Sedai or being Queen of Andor' ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:54:19 AM 821 Views
The Nobles don't really have any reason to assume the Amyrlin would do that darius_sedai - 20/12/2010 08:50:54 PM 714 Views
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