Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
Hot Pie Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM
Not because refusal to do so would "un-Aes Sedai" her (it doesn't seem to have done so with Siuan, or Leane or, um, a certain uppity Two Rivers Amyrlin... 
) but because it would've put her more in the role of that vigilante. She would be going rogue, denying the authority of both Tower and Amyrlin. Aes Sedai swear the Three Oaths; an Aes Sedai who refuses to do so repudiates one of their core principles. She'd still be Aes Sedai, but an Aes Sedai who wants to make her own rules every bit as much as Elaida and every bit as much to the Towers detriment. You know what would make the world even MORE suspicious than they already are of Aes Sedai who deceive and prevaricate to maintain nominal adherence to the Three Oaths? Catching an Aes Sedai in a lie that "proves" the vaunted Three Oaths are just another lie.
) but because it would've put her more in the role of that vigilante. She would be going rogue, denying the authority of both Tower and Amyrlin. Aes Sedai swear the Three Oaths; an Aes Sedai who refuses to do so repudiates one of their core principles. She'd still be Aes Sedai, but an Aes Sedai who wants to make her own rules every bit as much as Elaida and every bit as much to the Towers detriment. You know what would make the world even MORE suspicious than they already are of Aes Sedai who deceive and prevaricate to maintain nominal adherence to the Three Oaths? Catching an Aes Sedai in a lie that "proves" the vaunted Three Oaths are just another lie.Um...err have you forgotten the Black Ajah? The Three Oaths are a farce and the only reason they are 'needed' is because the Aes Sedai dug their own grave over the past 3,000 years. The only reason the Criminal Binder is still 'needed' and in use today is because the Aes Sedai believe it needs to be. If you agree with them and think the Binders needed for Oaths, which ironically makes the Oaths worthless...then continue to believe that I suppose.
This isn't even touching on the fact that they lose half their life (which they seem to care less about...how believable is that btw?) and creates xenophobia in the people due to the ageless look. All the reasons the Aes Sedai use for justfying using their 'Oath Rod' are completely wrong on some level imo.
Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths
- 07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM
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*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
- 07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM
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I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely.
- 07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM
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I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the
- 07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM
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no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM*
- 07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM
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would have made for an interesting spin on the plot
- 07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM
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How is she not a lead?
- 07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM
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She has never really had her own unique plot line
- 07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on that
- 07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own 
*NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM
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*NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM
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That would have been good - I think she was probably the only woman with such an opportunity
- 07/12/2010 10:59:50 PM
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Personally, I think it would have been a brillaint twist if Nyneave didn't become Aes Sedai *NM*
- 08/12/2010 12:02:05 AM
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Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
- 07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM
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she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general
- 07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM
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Especially since Egwene herself didn't really think it necessary for herself to take the tests
- 07/12/2010 03:43:18 PM
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well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan
- 07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM
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I meant one that would destroy the White Tower
- 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM
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- 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM
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I agree with you. Hopefully Post LB there will be a new structure to the AS organization
- 07/12/2010 05:34:01 PM
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She was always going to have to swear the Oaths
- 07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM
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Brace yourselves, everybody...
- 08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM
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The only problem with that scenario was that Nynaeve had stuff to do, and could not as Accepted
- 09/12/2010 01:09:45 AM
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And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test?
- 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM
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- 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM
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I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
- 07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM
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Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
- 16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM
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It's supposed to be a required part of being Aes Sedai.
- 08/12/2010 08:52:34 AM
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On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
- 14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM
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Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
- 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM
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Passing your scars on
- 14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM
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They believe Oaths necessary, thus an Aes Sedai refusing sets herself apart from and above the rest.
- 16/12/2010 02:26:45 PM
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So?
- 15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM
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From the standpoint of actually changing Tower rules and traditions I agree with you.
- 16/12/2010 02:13:44 PM
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