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Re: Reply to both moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM
the leadership of the Shaido are corrupt and so they have corrupted the ordinary people as well. This can happen to any nation, not just Aiel.
In seven months, from the time Couladin died to the Battle of Malden, the Shaido Aiel transformed from essentially just like the rest of the clans to a lazy, drunken gang of bandits, sitting on their asses, raping their prisoners, and enjoying the good life. This happened despite there being no great upheaval in the leadership ranks (sept chiefs, Wise Ones, societies still perfectly extant) other than Sevanna prolonging her perfectly legitimate rights indefinitely.

I don't buy it. This is not Heart of Darkness. Either the Aiel actually had this kind of behavior going on commonly, outside of Rand and Egwene's view, or their culture really is highly inflexible and breaks in all kind of interesting ways when tested.
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Aviendha's vision is utterly impossible. - 08/12/2010 03:34:05 AM 1464 Views
Hm. Well, what constitutes "saving?" - 09/12/2010 03:39:12 PM 854 Views
No. - 09/12/2010 06:32:59 PM 854 Views
It's just a story. - 08/12/2010 05:34:17 AM 888 Views
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Eh? - 08/12/2010 09:11:17 PM 899 Views
Peasants aren't slaves? Are you fucking kidding me? - 08/12/2010 11:32:18 PM 872 Views
yes, but the Seanchan aren't keeping their culture to themselves - 09/12/2010 12:17:36 AM 853 Views
And Randlanders aren't forcing their beliefs on others? - 09/12/2010 02:22:11 AM 821 Views
That's plain stupid... - 09/12/2010 06:41:49 AM 843 Views
Re: That's plain stupid... - 09/12/2010 07:45:34 AM 837 Views
You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return" - 09/12/2010 08:21:00 AM 853 Views
I do. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:24:00 AM 476 Views
Well, I don't *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:41:32 AM 437 Views
Crap alert! - 09/12/2010 01:26:37 PM 803 Views
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I'd wish it on myself - 09/12/2010 07:40:34 PM 831 Views
I wouldn't necessarily object to wearing a Domination band... - 10/12/2010 08:37:48 AM 1143 Views
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Personally, I like Suffa better. *NM* - 10/12/2010 01:52:28 AM 456 Views
Peasants aren't slaves. - 09/12/2010 12:19:11 AM 839 Views
"But they were free men." - 09/12/2010 06:20:10 AM 694 Views
By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 07:32:42 AM 915 Views
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 08:23:03 AM 860 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 09:45:14 AM 849 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 06:39:16 PM 834 Views
Is there anything you'd like to correct about what you just said? - 09/12/2010 07:43:56 PM 859 Views
Ok. - 10/12/2010 04:57:12 AM 966 Views
~shrugs~ I prefer using "Peasant" rather than "Serf" - 09/12/2010 08:06:19 AM 805 Views
They're really different things. - 09/12/2010 08:26:26 AM 813 Views
Not really. - 09/12/2010 08:40:32 AM 866 Views
Sure, if you insist on being wrong, it's not like I can stop you. *NM* - 09/12/2010 06:41:18 PM 416 Views
They're the same thing, you're just being anal about it. *NM* - 10/12/2010 01:42:28 AM 428 Views
If that is what you wish to believe. - 10/12/2010 05:00:46 AM 797 Views
gai'shain aren't really comparable to damane - 08/12/2010 10:02:54 PM 971 Views
The Shaido made precedent, it's done. *NM* - 08/12/2010 11:39:09 PM 397 Views
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I apologize for the "bullshit" comment. - 10/12/2010 08:16:38 AM 1443 Views
Re: Reply to both - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM 714 Views
Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 02:10:46 AM 995 Views
Re: Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 08:44:27 AM 851 Views
What kind of reasoning is this? - 09/12/2010 08:29:15 AM 670 Views
Eh? *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:43:01 AM 353 Views
At least the Aiel v. Seanchan question is answered. - 09/12/2010 02:46:02 AM 1510 Views
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